Roger L Jackson: Best known for playing villains of either the silly (Mojo Jojo) or scary (Ghostface) variety, playing the charming Mr Narrator in The Book of Pooh.
Actually speaking of Pooh, pretty much anytime Jim Cummings is made to play soundalike for Sterling Holloway. Given how tied he is...
The problem is that most of Disney's sequels, even the theatricals, tend to be made through a very conservative and formulaic approach, which is glaring next to the innovations the first films often take. Some are still good in regards to being that, after all not all cliches are bad, but they...
Fantasia 2000 bombed as well, likely why Eisner ditched the third one.
Truthfully Disney's run with theatrical sequels hasn't been good in box office sales (if for a variety of reasons). The reason they resorted to direct to video was because video sales were usually consistently good, even for...
I guess the thing is that it happened in early cartoons because most protagonists were anti-heroes, mischief makers who while often firing second, often had a sadistic streak and were paired against very pitiful villains. As some WB staff noted, there was always a very fine line between these...
While I remember Heathcliff being of standard 80s cartoon quality, it actually never stuck me that he was a Garfield alike back then. And I don't just the mean the 'Heathcliff came first' thing. Garfield was an acerbic and lazy cynic, he fit that deadpan half lidded look about him. Heathcliff...
While I like Heathcliff getting attention again, those designs look awful and just scream contemporary Garfield rip off. It might be able to capture the spirit in writing, but why do they insist on making this stuff so ugly?
I am wondering who will voice Heathcliff though. He's one Mel Blanc...
I haven't seen all of Twice just yet, but the CGI admittedly hasn't dated brilliantly compared to Once's lovely hand drawn animation.
From what I have seen and remember, Once was a more earnest film, if sometimes to the point of being kinda schmaltzy. The Donald segment was about the only one...
I guess it's often that the heroes have plot armour and writers likely fear the kids watching will be traumatised if the heroes get brutalised as badly as the villains do. This is likely why lots of shows just go for bumbling villains, though even then it sometimes seems like they have to skew...
There were actually three Tortoise and the Hare ones, and in all three Cecil beat Bugs.
I already listed five, and the above posters repeated them.
Oh and there's Hare Brush, where Elmer wins due to a personality switch.
After a three year wait, Monster Entertainment have finally uploaded the entire series of The Dreamstone onto Youtube on it's own official channel:
The Dreamstone Official
Bugs Bunny was known for getting token defeats and humiliations, almost always after he acted like too much of a smarmy little jerk.
Rebel Rabbit and the Cecil Turtle trilogy are key examples. Rabbit Rampage can also be considered a belated one after Duck Amuck.
Speedy Gonzales suffered a...
Funnily enough, the original idea was to have Angelica recurrently get away with bullying the babies to teach the audience that life sometimes doesn't play fair. They dabbled with this in a couple of early episodes (eg. BBQ Story) but ultimately weren't fond of the results, deciding her getting...
Some of Martin Gates Productions' cartoons don't get a lot of exposure now. Both Abbey Home Media and Monster Entertainment pushed for a rerelease of The Dreamstone, though allegedly didn't get enough support (Germany's getting the whole series on DVD however). It's follow on Bimble's Bucket is...
You also have to remember that Sally was an original character introduced in an adaptation/later instalment of an existing work, and was practically made co-star to the main character. Those types of additions are ALWAYS going to be divisive.
I was rather surprised Gopher from the Winnie the...
Truthfully they did do an 'all knowing' Sonic in Sonic X, and people thought he was bland as well.
I think it stems from the fact Sally is a straight man, but a very pointed straight man, she can be rather curt, sarcastic and uptight. Even worse she has a few moments of hypocrisy and being just...
I do think Freleng was the one who got the chase formula down pat, his Bugs and Tweety cartoons were suitably frenetic and wacky with lots of good gags. Yosemite Sam was also a great antagonist for Bugs.
Maybe the only one I thought he didn't get down quite so well was Speedy. I dunno, he just...
Formulas aren't bad, but as said when done to a really linear extreme, they become less a base for a plot and characterisation and more a rehash of the same thing over and over.
Clampett from what I heard wasn't too big on keeping to a regimented formula for too long. The Porky/Daffy pairing is...
I think it's the problem that Jones was VERY attached to formula. Once he found a shtick for a character he rarely deviated. EVER. Hence why a lot of his unit-exclusive characters ended up rather one note. Now don't get me wrong, a lot of them are GREAT cartoons, but they have a 'seen one, seen...
Generally the best female oriented cartoons are those where gender is a minor detail. Most of the best characters in animation can work as either gender besides maybe very subtle changes. Sure there are masculine and feminine characters but that's still a characteristic over a gender regiment...
She and the other VAs do seem to be trying now, but the problem is they're still stuck working with the same cheesy forced direction and script (eg. Team Rocket's rhyming/alliterations, Ash's 'totally awesome' slang, nearly every girl 'twerp' sounding like a valley girl).
I definitely agree...
Tons of Disney stuff far below my age range. A lot Disney Afternoon cartoons for example, especially Duck Tales (original) and Tale Spin.
Bambi II It's Bambi and it's a DTV sequel, but I think it's endearing and well made in spite of being somewhat cloying and an obvious cash in on an iconic...
I thought I was the only one that thought Animaniacs was obnoxious and too 'nudge nudge, meta joke, laugh now' non-stop.
Wabbit I think has some cool ideas, what with reusing the classic format without just remaking already perfected cartoons and even trying it's own style here and there or...
I'm under the impression that any Disney instalment just does it's own thing now. What is 'canon' Mickey Mouse or Winnie the Pooh exactly. They've run these guys for so long and with high billing it's hard to centre a specific film as the 'true' rendition. Even when Disney promote the next...
A lot of DiC shows are kind of fun for nostalgia, but it's wise not to really go back to them as an adult. They were quirky little things that could be very fun for kids but mostly just cheaply made and formulaic in the eyes of older viewers, especially compared to writing and animation these...
The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh was impressively charming and built on the Disney's renditions of the cast from the film very well, while still having some bizarrely creative episodes and ideas in between some very Milne-ish type plots. It also had most of the remaining voice actors from...
In fairness Daffy will likely get his own DVD sets if Porky's sell well, not to mention how much of Daffy's filmography intertwines into Porky's (should they get to the second DVD set, nearly all of it will be Daffy shorts).
It is nice to see Porky get some love. Surprised they didn't take the...
Chicken Little was Disney's infamous attempt to try and copy Dreamworks' dryer more parody-esque format, and ended up rather clunky and somewhat mean spirited.
It depends. The first season was mostly just Bugs focused, meaning no matter what characters they used it was always with the same format with Bugs as the protagonist and them as the 'guest character', hence the repetition. It's like when Daffy or Wile appeared in a classic Bugs cartoon, it was...
I do like some of Wabbit's attempts at new recurring characters though. Leslie P. Lilylegs and Claudette Dupri are funny antagonists (Claudette gets extra points for being a female character and not having the slapstick diluted remotely). While I'm glad we're seeing more of the original cast...
From what I know comics Glomgold is Scottish as well (he even has the cliche bonnet) just he took residence in South Africa due to having descendants there, and the aforementioned real life issues led the original show to relocate him to Duckberg. The venom over the 'second richest duck' billing...
I need to see more of both shows really. I will say at times I've watched though, the Mickey Mouse cartoons feel more like a Disney parody than a new official follow on, while some of Wabbit's stuff feels more like an actual Looney Tunes.
Wabbit does seem a bit more formulaic, though compared...
Webby is different, but truthfully so is a lot of the rest of the cast. When I see the triplets and Mrs Beakley, I don't get deja vu of the original show. This is a reimagining, part to give it more a tone of the original Carl Banks works, and the other to give it more 'contemporary' humour and...
I heard some claims that early test screens of Bambi adapted a scene from the book where Bambi and his father discover a corpse of a hunter to present Man's own morality, though it was cut when several members of the audience jumped from their seats in horror.
The Dreamstone's last season was a better example of branching out into new ideas without getting too gimmicky. The hero characters were allowed to be more comical and have more side plots, the magic and world building had far more substance, one shot characters and locations made the formula...
The HB ones by far, however, while I think the aesthetics were best around the mid-late 40s, I think the actual dynamic was perfected around the 50s.
The secondary cast were fully fledged, the on-off rivalry between the two was seen most often and at it's most versatile, and they'd also...
I dunno. The early political episodes were maybe mean spirited, but at least Stan had consistent motivations for being a jerk. Nowadays he often feels more like Peter Griffin but with an aesop awkwardly patched on. He's childish, he's selfish, he's nearly always in the wrong about everything...
Yeah, a lot of cartoons had gotten really bad for world building or writing interesting hero characters by that point, so the hammy villains tended to be the most fun part of the show.
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