The Simpsons "Mommie Beerest" talkback (spoilers)

[SirLemming]

Marge works at Moe's and invades Homer's space.
Or... Marge leaves Homer for Moe.
Or... The Simpsons take out a second mortgage on the house to help Moe save his bar, and Marge becomes Moe's business partner to protect the investment.

We'll see what the plot turns out to be.

 

[Don_East]

The first health inspector dies, I see this one coming. And another bad gay joke.

EDIT

British Pub, they did that on Family Guy.

 

[shoujoaifan]

Or... The Simpsons take out a second mortgage on the house to help Moe save his bar, and Marge becomes Moe's business partner to protect the investment.

Wow, do you live another time zone, or did you honestly get that right?

 

[Tobias]

Wow, do you live another time zone, or did you honestly get that right?

That was the synopsis my digital cable listing had for this episode.

 

[Spongebrain2.0]

If this episode was done 8 years ago, it could've been great. Sadly, its a 2004-2005 episode

 

[Juu-kuchi]

Hey they ripped off Liar Liar!

 

[SirLemming]

That couch gag was okay, but not great. The couch gags will never be as good as they used to be and I think they need to end the show now. The couch gags are trying to be like Family Guy. Matt Groening sold out. Also, I find myself vaguely disappointed by life in general, and that's also Matt Groening's fault.

ACT ONE:​

Act one was very solid, although it's always kind of awkward when Moe does something suicide-related. But the plot's going smoothly so far and there have been 4 or 5 good laughs, including Homer pushing the oatmeal guy, Bart making Lisa eat meat, Duffman's mournful dance, and "The League of Extra-Horny Gentlemen". (And that's not a "gay joke", it's just a funny pun. Come on. Enough homophobiaphobia.)

ACT TWO: Also strong.​

@_@ He just said "Jerkass Homer"!

LISA: I'm not inferring anything. You infer; I imply.

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HOMER: Well that's a relief.​

​

Ohh, so that's where Fox got that "Marge throws Homer out" clip.
Trumpet gag = not working.

ACT THREE:​

HOMER: He's only your emotional uncle. I'm your real uncle!

Not bad, except for one problem: Why did Moe's tavern revert back to the way it used to be? You know, before he demolished it? And what about the mortgage and stuff? Did they get it paid back? Is Moe still in debt to them?



Overall, this was definitely the best episode of this season. But I have to admit it still had something of a "pointless" feel to it. It wasn't anywhere near as boring as last week's, but it wasn't very engaging. I'm not sure exactly what the problem is here, because the pacing is better than it's been in years and they're doing character-oriented stories. And yet...

As for next week... well, maybe there'll be some good Superbowl commercials. Oh, and American Dad, right?

 

[Quagmire]

Third time Moe's was remodeled (Uncle Moe's Family Restaurant and the modern trendy bar from a few years ago), it's getting old.

Funny moment at the end. Moe laying on a caribbean beach and interfering with a marriage could have come from Along Came Polly where Hank Azaria (Moe's voice actor) tried to interfer with Ben Stiller's marriage.

Nice silent tribute after the credits to Johnny Carson, although I figured they would have done it next week.

Rather disappointing episode over all.

 

[Auggie Doggie]

Well, I kind of liked this one. I mean, it was about as up-to-speed as a show that has been on for 10+ years (or better yet, > 1 decade) should and really can be. It has another obsticle to the Homer/Marge marriage, where Homer takes out another mortgage to save Moe's Tavern, and Marge goes into partnership with Moe, eventually becoming good friends with him, almost to the level where it overshadows her relationship with Homer (he worries). It takes about two seconds at the tail end of the story for the conflict to be resolved. But, this show is now all about humor, and indeed, humor lives! Homer plays dumb about how to take care of the kids (the first time I laughed at loud at the series in quite a while), they go to "Itchy and Scratchy Land" (yay!), there's a "Liar, Liar" sight gag, and we return to the Googooplex, and their gianormous marquee with spoof titles (only appearing briefly, as opposed to the obvious "Eating Nemo" reference and the posters for "The Matrix Christmas" and "You're in the Matrix, Charlie Brown" in "The Ziff Who Came to Dinner"). But we get a trailer for a crappy Dreamworks computer-animated project, starring playing cards with celeberty-type personalities. I loved that, and it sounds so much like "Shark Tale". I hope it hit Jeff Katzenberg between the eyes.

I give it 6-7 glasses of beer.

And about the "Family Guy did that" comment, I know. But, so what? They did it fairly differently on their show. Besides, why should you expect the writers to endlessly pull gags out of their asses on this show? I should take every copy your video store has of "Ray" and make you rent and watch "Shall We Dance" instead.

 

[Haruhara]

I kinda liked that one scene where the children were at paris in the balloon race. I dunno, the setting was peaceful...for like 2 seconds. XD (i'm the artsy person, shut up XDD)
It was an okay episode. The beginning was good, but the end seemed kinda played out. Like it was kinda obvious Moe was gonna confess his love for Marge. It seemed ...old.

 

[Fone Bone]

This is the point wherein as a Toon Zone member I have to pretend I only SORT OF liked the episode even if it was really good.

The gag where Homer plays dumb? Well, honestly it's not as funny as Sideshow Bob getting hit in the face with a rake nine times. And if they don't have a gag that funny on-screen for every ten seconds I can take or leave the episode.

And the gag where the health inspector dies and is still on the floor when the new health inspector looks over the place? If we're really being straight with each other it WAS a little bit gross. I prefer humor that is TASTEFULLY done and subtle like on Family Guy.

And the part where Marge assures Homer that she loves him even if he is a self-proclaimed jerk-off? Seriously unless they have three Mr. Bergstrom moments per episode it just isn't cutting it.

All in all I give this episode 3 beers and thank God that this isn't a public poll.

 

[shoujoaifan]

If this episode was done 8 years ago, it could've been great. Sadly, its a 2004-2005 episode

What do you mean? That you think an episode could only be considered good if the season overall is good, or am I COMPLETELY misunderstanding and what your really saying is that you think this episode was not good, due to it being in the same style as the current season? (I haven't seen any of the other episodes of this season, I'm just assuming.

I have seen, at the most, only 2 or 3 episodes of the Simpsons from the last year or two. The last time I reguarly watched the Simpsons was 6 or 7 years ago, watching the weekday strip on UPN. I have heard how the Simpsons have gone downhill in recent years. I don't know how this compares to recent episodes, but it seemed average. Not average subjectively quality Simpson 5/6 years ago, not average subjectively crappy Modern Simpson, just a 1/2 hour of average TV.

That was the synopsis my digital cable listing had for this episode.

Oops, my bad

 

[Bruce Kent]

I always like The Simpsons.

Now, compared to a lot of other episodes this was not great, it was just all right.

I just really want to know why we've revisited: Moe's Tavern being redone, Moe getting turned on and then down by Marge, etc.

I think the writers need some new ideas.

 

[SirLemming]

Fone Bone, that post was confusing as heck, just in case you were wondering how other Toon Zoners would react to it.

 

[Fone Bone]

Fone Bone, that post was confusing as heck, just in case you were wondering how other Toon Zoners would react to it.

I find most Simpsons talkbacks confusing. A few hundred more reviews like that and we're even.

 

[Scythemantis]

What do you mean? That you think an episode could only be considered good if the season overall is good, or am I COMPLETELY misunderstanding and what your really saying is that you think this episode was not good, due to it being in the same style as the current season?

He means neither of those. When someone says an episode of something would have been good in the past, it means that the content/themes of the episode have been overdone by other episodes and even other current TV shows. It would've been original before, but it isn't original now.

 

[shoujoaifan]

He means neither of those. When someone says an episode of something would have been good in the past, it means that the content/themes of the episode have been overdone by other episodes and even other current TV shows. It would've been original before, but it isn't original now.

OOOOOH Granted, nothing's new under the sun, so judging one show on wether or not another show does the same thing kinda pushing it.

(UNLESS one show ripped the other off completely by doing it exactly the same way, like, THEORITCALLY, if Family Guy was to have their bar owner character hit on Lois like Moe from Simpons does, OR if it an "unique" "idea", like a mix of ideas, like say combining a mad scientist/villian with, say, a baby, and a certain Simpsons baby talked and tried to kill Marge, THEN not only would that be more then enough to judge a show's "orinigality", but that would be downright stealing).

ANYWAY, after reading Bruce Kent's post:

I always like The Simpsons.

Now, compared to a lot of other episodes this was not great, it was just all right.

I just really want to know why we've revisited: Moe's Tavern being redone, Moe getting turned on and then down by Marge, etc.

I think the writers need some new ideas.

....that even if many shows use similiar ideas, but presented differently, that its certainly possible for a show to reuse its already used ideas over and over again.

Like I said before, I found this to be average TV anyway WELL, averagly decent, not a masterpiece, but certianly better than most reality shows, LET ALONE most TV

Damn, I overanalyzed again.

 

[Master Moron]

I thought at the end Marge was going to set Moe up with someone...but she didn't...

 

[Classic Speedy]

Animation: Rough Draft

Wow, after the dismal Midnight Rx, this actually wasn't too bad. Best moments:
-The entire first scene at the fancy brunch was great- Homer punching a chef, Bart & Lisa's foodfight being interrupted by Marge's nagging, whom is the REAL person to cause the disturbance, etc.
-Moe's health inspection, with the previous health inspector still dead on the floor. "The garbage man doesn't come until Wednesday, so..."
-The funeral service for Moe's. The general pacing and mock seriousness of the scene felt like something out of Season 6 or 7.
-This is the first catchy musical number we've had in years, as short as it was.
-Homer: "Oh, I'm too fat to go to a gay bar."
-The parody of CG animated series that are doomed to fail, with the characters made of playing cards. So bad it was funny, and reminiscent of the Nightmare Before Christmas parody they had on The Critic.
-Homer & Moe sharing a bed at the end.

Of course, no recent Simpsons episode is safe from WTF gags that aren't funny, and here we had:
-The judge & the lawyer making out.
-The trombone gag (though for you trombone players, it's nice that the animators took care in making the proper position for the notes!)
-A dull couch gag.
-The plane scene wasn't too great overall, aside from an out-of-nowhere Liar Liar reference.
-The kids in a balloon race at the end.

Overall though, this left a MUCH better taste in my mouth than last week's episode, so it gets a... GRADE: B

 

[Samurai]

This episode definitely had that "Been there, Done that" type of feel (especially when Moe remodeled his tavern... that gag should be retired permanently).

Also, the Homer/Marge sentimentalism made the episode even more awkward. Some shows can handly comedy/relationship elements, but Simpsons has lost that ability. When they try to throw it in, it feels disjointed and throws everything off.