Bob Iger back as Disney CEO; Bob Chapek out

[harry580]

Disney DMED head Kareem Daniel (and Chapek right hand) also gone.

Iger says he has asked Dana Walden (TV head), Jimmy Pitaro (ESPN head), Alan Bergman (Studios head) and CFO Christine McCarthy to come up with a "new structure that puts more decision-making back in the hands of our creative teams and rationalizes costs, and this will necessitate a reorganization".

TL; DR: Prepare for more consolidation.

I hope this mean bob Iger will put Chris wedge in charge and start to use Blue sky studios label, along with 20th Century Animation and Disney Pictures. It may help to calm the critical fans who are outrage with ice age buck wild down

 

[LinusFan303]

*reminds me of why Disney bought fox family worldwide only to abandoned the saban library which is the mlb rights*, I have fear this is going to be the case with blue sky studios library & ip, abandoned due to Disney wanted to get the sports rights

That wasn't why they bought Fox family worldwide, that'd be bit much for what was Thursday Night Baseball which died a few years later anyway. They got to expand some reach with the Fox Kids channels world wide, which was the main reason.

 

[DogBoneController]

This whole saga is indicative that some Disney execs at least somewhat give a crap about the company. Chapek had AT&T exec vibes for sure.

 

[lowell]

I hope this mean bob Iger will put Chris wedge in charge and start to use Blue sky studios label, along with 20th Century Animation and Disney Pictures. It may help to calm the critical fans who are outrage with ice age buck wild down

We’ll have to see what happens.

Plus, Buck Wild was supposed to be a spin-off, not a direct sequel. Hope there wasn’t confusion there but not surprised if story and animation work was weak.

That wasn't why they bought Fox family worldwide, that'd be bit much for what was Thursday Night Baseball which died a few years later anyway. They got to expand some reach with the Fox Kids channels world wide, which was the main reason.

It was also to get the channel, which became ABC Family, and then now Freeform but the 700 Club still were able to maintain their grip on their broadcast time (can’t be bought out unless those people want Disney to do so).

 

[Moe]

@lowell well, what about the blue sky studios ips?, well for the blue sky ip doing done in house with the 20th century name snapped on it, ice age adventures of buck wild featured the Walt Disney pictures logo instead of the 20th century studios logo

It was supposed to be TV series for Disney+ prior to launch, but changed to full length film instead.

*reminds me of why Disney bought fox family worldwide only to abandoned the saban library which is the mlb rights*, I have fear this is going to be the case with blue sky studios library & ip, abandoned due to Disney wanted to get the sports rights

It has been evolved into Disney for new contents and they reran many Fox Kids/Saban/BVS shows on Toon Disney under Jetix banner until Disney felt that is time to move on after rebrand to Disney XD, and went to bought Marvel and Star Wars eventually.

Old shows don't stay on kid channels much longer, compared to adult channels.

 

[harry580]

It was supposed to be TV series for Disney+ prior to launch, but changed to full length film instead.

is it because of budget cuts? or a change of Management at disney/20th at the time

It has been evolved into Disney for new contents and they reran many Fox Kids/Saban/BVS shows on Toon Disney under Jetix banner until Disney felt that is time to move on after rebrand to Disney XD, and went to bought Marvel and Star Wars eventually.

Old shows don't stay on kid channels much longer, compared to adult channels.

im not talking about channels, I talking about disney treatment of the fox kids/saban/bvs/sip animation library, they didn't put these shows on disney plus

 

[Moe]

is it because of budget cuts? or a change of Management at disney/20th at the time

No idea. It could be producer's decision to believe that full length film is better option.

If it wasn't for full length film, so it would be serialized TV shows instead.

im not talking about channels, I talking about disney treatment of the fox kids/saban/bvs/sip animation library, they didn't put these shows on disney plus

Disney is VERY SLOW to add old contents to Disney+, even old Disney shows is affected too, not just Saban, Fox Kids and BVS only. There are a lot of Disney shows are missing.

Nevertheless, Disney added Saban's Marvel shows on Disney+.

 

[lowell]

No idea. It could be producer's decision to believe that full length film is better option.

If it wasn't for full length film, so it would be serialized TV shows instead.


Disney is VERY SLOW to add old contents to Disney+, even old Disney shows is affected too, not just Saban, Fox Kids and BVS only. There are a lot of Disney shows are missing.

Nevertheless, Disney added Saban's Marvel shows on Disney+.

Yup, it took 2 years to get the Muppet Show on Disney+.

 

[LinusFan303]

No idea. It could be producer's decision to believe that full length film is better option.

If it wasn't for full length film, so it would be serialized TV shows instead.


Disney is VERY SLOW to add old contents to Disney+, even old Disney shows is affected too, not just Saban, Fox Kids and BVS only. There are a lot of Disney shows are missing.

Nevertheless, Disney added Saban's Marvel shows on Disney+.

Took 666 Days for Pepper Ann to get on there (not even a joke)

 

[MegaJack]

Took 666 Days for Pepper Ann to get on there (not even a joke)

I'm still waiting for the underrated Fillmore! to be added... which most likely would be never. I've got a feeling they didn't bother because 1) it's not popular enough, and 2) it starred Orlando Brown as the titular character, and yall know what happened to him, oof. Probably wanted to stay out of controversy.

 

[GRPHX]

is it because of budget cuts? or a change of Management at disney/20th at the time

im not talking about channels, I talking about disney treatment of the fox kids/saban/bvs/sip animation library, they didn't put these shows on disney plus

They will be on Disney+

But Harry please, I'm not suggesting you talk about it. This topic has caused a lot of controversy in the past.

Please talk about it here

Fox Kids/Jetix & Saban Library - Missing on Disney+

In 1995, Saban Entertainment and Fox Kids merged to form Fox Family Worldwide. During this merger, New World Animation/Marvel Productions was purchased and the Saban-Fox partnership acquired Marvel's entire archive of cartoons produced between the 1966 to 1997. (Except Fantastic Four '68 and The...

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The reason for Disney to abandon these shows was clearly fan indifference or ignorance of the fans, but there was a renewed interest in this library, especially in Eastern Europe, and articles started to be produced again about them.

We know Disney isn't good at managing the vault, but that will change with Bob Iger and new streaming head

 

[LinusFan303]

Walt Disney CFO, Others Brought Concerns to Board Over Bob Chapek

Finance head Christine McCarthy told directors of her lack of confidence in the CEO after a calamitous November earnings call.

www.wsj.com

This article has some intersting things in it like this :

And of course my repeated phrase of streaming not making money

In the three years since its inception, Disney+ amassed over 164 million subscribers, about three-quarters of Netflix’s current subscriber base of 223.1 million. Overall, Disney—which also owns the ESPN+ streaming platform and controls the majority of Hulu—boasts more streaming subscribers globally than any other company.

But the streaming division, which Mr. Chapek has said he expected to be profitable by the company’s 2024 fiscal year, has lost more than $8.5 billion since Disney+ was launched and has posted bigger operating losses in each of the past four quarters. Under Mr. Chapek, Disney+ has increased its content spending dramatically—to around $30 billion this year alone.

It also notes something interesting, that Iger didn't like that Chapek reorganized things where there is a distribution arm that picks if something ends up on linear TV, streaming TV , or movie theaters, Iger thinks it takes away creative freedom.

 

[lowell]

Walt Disney CFO, Others Brought Concerns to Board Over Bob Chapek

Finance head Christine McCarthy told directors of her lack of confidence in the CEO after a calamitous November earnings call.

www.wsj.com

This article has some intersting things in it like this :
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And of course my repeated phrase of streaming not making money


It also notes something interesting, that Iger didn't like that Chapek reorganized things where there is a distribution arm that picks if something ends up on linear TV, streaming TV , or movie theaters, Iger thinks it takes away creative freedom.

Plus, Disney Channel is turning 40 next year. Moving many shows to streaming without providing new content for the network would destroy that channel's legacy any day it can still stand.

 

[TsWade2]

I'm going to be honest, I don't think Bob Chapek is the savior of Disney.

 

[Moe]

There is no problem if members want to talk about Saban/BVS/Fox Kids in here, but last thread lockup was related to insulting and fighting between members, not topic itself.

It is important to respect and not fight with other members, so moderators wouldn't have to lock the thread up.

I'm going to be honest, I don't think Bob Chapek is the savior of Disney. I guess that petition of firing Bob Chapek really does work after all.

Disney never take petition in consideration and CEO's job is tied to financial performance.

If Disney loses the money in amount of time concurrently, so CEO would be fired.

If Disney makes money, so CEO would keep the job.

I sometimes I don't like bob Iger, because I think he makes wrong choices for the company like ending hand drawn animation. However, since Disney is indeed tanking and that's very nervousing, and what he's been doing so far has promises, I'll give him a chance to redeem himself. And this time, leave hand drawn artists at WDAS alone.

Hand drawn isn't Disney's highest priority, but it isn't abandoned.

 

[Spideyzilla]

I sometimes I don't like bob Iger, because I think he makes wrong choices for the company like ending hand drawn animation. However, since Disney is indeed tanking and that's very nervousing, and what he's been doing so far has promises, I'll give him a chance to redeem himself. And this time, leave hand drawn artists at WDAS alone.

It's time to let hand-drawn animation go. Actually, it was time to do that years ago. The Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh came out under Iger's watch, both were an attempt to revive hand-drawn animation and they didn't do well enough. Iger didn't stop hand-drawn animation because he was some evil monster. Disney's last hand-drawn animated movies and first CGI movie both came under Michael Eisner. Iger came to power in 2005 and TPATF went into development the following year. This wasn't just Iger, you can thank John Lasseter and Ed Catmull for trying to revive traditional animation. The movies just didn't do well enough and Disney has had too much success with CGI movies to rock the boat. Iger didn't decide, the market decided. Disney has clearly reached a happy medium: movies like Tangled or Frozen which are done with CGI but have many of the trademarks of their classic 2D animated movie style.

Seriously, we see these kinds of posts all the time and it's time to move on. Hand-drawn animation isn't coming back, that battle was lost 20 years ago.

 

[Magmaster12]

This just reminds me of Jack Donaghy from 30 Rocks, he spends the entire series trying to find what makes him happy, only to find that trying to get ahead in the work environment is what makes him happy.

 

[TsWade2]

It's time to let hand-drawn animation go. Actually, it was time to do that years ago. The Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh came out under Iger's watch, both were an attempt to revive hand-drawn animation and they didn't do well enough. Iger didn't stop hand-drawn animation because he was some evil monster. Disney's last hand-drawn animated movies and first CGI movie both came under Michael Eisner. Iger came to power in 2005 and TPATF went into development the following year. This wasn't just Iger, you can thank John Lasseter and Ed Catmull for trying to revive traditional animation. The movies just didn't do well enough and Disney has had too much success with CGI movies to rock the boat. Iger didn't decide, the market decided. Disney has clearly reached a happy medium: movies like Tangled or Frozen which are done with CGI but have many of the trademarks of their classic 2D animated movie style.

Seriously, we see these kinds of posts all the time and it's time to move on. Hand-drawn animation isn't coming back, that battle was lost 20 years ago.

With all due respect, Disney is bringing back hand drawn animation: Animator Eric Goldberg, Producer Jason Sterman on Disney's 'Sketchbook' Maybe not for feature films, but possibly shorts and series. And also, Disney’s next year’s animated movie Wish is going to be hybrid movie which not only will be in cg animation, it will also include 2D animation. So Disney is bringing back hand drawn animation.

 

[AdrenalineRush1996]

I'm glad that Iger's back in charge of Disney since Chapek just didn't do a great job during his two-year tenure at the studio.

 

[Goldstar!]

There's a rumor going around that Bob Iger may be planning to sell Disney to Apple after 2 years.

MCU Phase 5 And 6 Might See Massive Changes Now That Bob Iger Is Back At Disney - BGR

Under Bob Iger, Disney and Marvel might make a few big changes to improve the quality of MCU Phase 5 and 6 - what you need to know.

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If this is true, I wonder that would mean for Apple TV+? Would that service then be bundled with D+? Things that make you go "Hmmm...."