Editorial: Studios Must Stop The Live-Action Remakes!

[LinusFan303]

the original 2002 film is likely going to be erased for a tax write off which I do not want

Uh they aren't going to that, just like Jungle Book is still around , and also because they can't tax write off something from 23 years ago.

 

[awinger24]

Uh they aren't going to that, just like Jungle Book is still around , and also because they can't tax write off something from 23 years ago.

I am greatly concerned that these remakes will overshadow the originals and Hollywood in general will assume 2D will never make a profit and its for kiddie affair. Not to mention films like Peter Pan, Dumbo, and The Aristocats which have some elements now declared problematic have content advisories on streaming (or even removed from children's profiles. The original material must be preserved for historical sake. "Song of the South" is the only movie where it is largely ignored outside of Japan and other markets. Imagine if they erased any of those films because it doesn't fit today's values.

No one should have a problem with some of the Renaissance movies like The Little Mermaid which I feel that its 2023 remake try to overcorrect because of how modern and checkboxed it was trying to me.

 

[Pooky]

If the Lilo and Stitch remake does well, the original 2002 film is likely going to be erased for a tax write off which I do not want.

I'm sorry to be blunt, but it has been explained to you multiple times over multiple different threads on more than one board that old films that have been commercially available for decades cannot be written off for taxes. And if they could be why would original films be written off when a remake does well? That gives them more commercial potential not less. Have you not noticed that Beauty & the Beast (1991), Aladdin (1992) and The Lion King (1994) are all still with us after their remakes all grossed over $1Billion each?

It seemed to get through to you when @Goldstar! told you that old characters cannot be taken as tax write offs, so what part about the same applying to old films are you not getting?

 

[harry580]

@awinger24, I want to let you know that Never happened to disney, it only happened with Warner bros but not disney, what's make you say that?, the fact that disney still has the fox kids/saban library in the vault

 

[awinger24]

I'm sorry to be blunt, but it has been explained to you multiple times over multiple different threads on more than one board that old films that have been commercially available for decades cannot be written off for taxes. And if they could be why would original films be written off when a remake does well? That gives them more commercial potential not less. Have you not noticed that Beauty & the Beast (1991), Aladdin (1992) and The Lion King (1994) are all still with us after their remakes all grossed over $1Billion each?

It seemed to get through to you when @Goldstar! told you that old characters cannot be taken as tax write offs, so what part about the same applying to old films are you not getting?

Companies have a right to exercise what material is relevant. I see they can not legally write it off because its past value, but I feel that largely ignoring or vaulting decades worth of history but only showing the material that made one profitable (the Disney+ commercials only showing material overseen by Bob Iger and not the decades before it). I can't imagine years and years of timeless material being buried and overshadowed by Marvel, Star Wars, and current modern day Disney.

They can't write off "Song of the South" for sure. I just wish they are more open to reissuing their classic library and while trying to be risk averse, licensing out their vault, especially the ignored Fox library, on occasional throwback screenings or on cable TV could at least show they aren't trying to gatekeep everything.

I honestly think they should re-release the original classics in theaters which is cheaper and on top of this, I would like this to start a resurgence of interest in traditional 2D animation theatrically outside of anime. If you are spending a lot on trends, sure it makes a profit, but trying to oversaturate is a risker move too. Fatigue and burnout is real, and the Snow White remake shows that "bad" remakes like 2022's Pinocchio should allow to reconsider this strategy.

 

[harry580]

@awinger24, mean while, disney is digging out of the fox library, like a new predator movie, a new avatar movie, Buffy reboot, Malcom in the middle revival & ice age 6 so there's that

 

[awinger24]

@awinger24, mean while, disney is digging out of the fox library, like a new predator movie, a new avatar movie, Buffy reboot, Malcom in the middle revival & ice age 6

Trying not to be off topic, but the issue with remakes and reboots show that trying to dig up past IPs for nostalgia when in fact the originals are still superior, what is the whole point. Ever since Sean Bailey stepped down, I hope David Greenbaum can champion original projects as much as possible because we can't rely on existing IP forever.

Artistic expression and commercialism should exist hand in hand, not replace the other. Eventually, people are not going to see these remakes any longer. If they reissue any of the originals like Snow White 1937 or Cinderella 1950, imagine how many are going to want to see it if they market these more.

 

[Pooky]

Companies have a right to exercise what material is relevant. I see they can not legally write it off because its past value, but I feel that largely ignoring or vaulting decades worth of history but only showing the material that made one profitable (the Disney+ commercials only showing material overseen by Bob Iger and not the decades before it). I can't imagine years and years of timeless material being buried and overshadowed by Marvel, Star Wars, and current modern day Disney.

There's certainly an argument to be made there, but that's very different from being "erased for a tax write off', which is what you said.

Is it really the case that Disney+ only advertises Iger era work? I don't have it at the moment but when I last had it (the UK variant I suppose I should clarify) they were playing a spot celebrating the 75th Anniversary of Cinderella quiet a bit.

 

[awinger24]

There's certainly an argument to be made there, but that's very different from being "erased for a tax write off', which is what you said.

Is it really the case that Disney+ only advertises Iger era work? I don't have it at the moment but when I last had it (the UK variant I suppose I should clarify) they were playing a spot celebrating the 75th Anniversary of Cinderella quiet a bit.

I do see these anniversary tributes online. I honestly think it would be less expensive and more profitable to reissue these classic films in theaters. This should be a test for WDAS if there is a demand for hand drawn or any type of traditional 2D animation again.

Back to these live action remakes, hearing that these recent ones don't even turn a profit shows that they need to be more careful with how they spend. Snow White 2025 is going to be remembered as how not to update a fairy tale classic because there were plenty of decisions that warrant the mixed to negative reviews.

UPDATE: I am fine if they update books or classic fairy tales if the creator / director has their own unique take. "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" is a good example. "Pride and Prejudice" has been reimagined a couple of times. I just think the remakes trying to mimic the original only for nostalgia seems to be the issue.

 

[harry580]

well, no one cried when Charlie and the chocolate factory 2005 came out and thinking it will replaced willy wonka and the chocolate factory 1971, because the latter is still beloved and well known

(and this is coming from a guy who love both versions of the roald Dahl book, at least both of them are live action)

and also, as we speaking: this thread & its topic is disney we talking about, not Warner bros

 

[awinger24]

Walt Disney always wanted to do something different and new when it comes to his films. If they were going to update Snow White, I personally suggest they would have tried to stay faithful to the simplicity of the fairy tale and not add anything that causes any divide or discourse amongst current day climates. The CGI dwarfs should have been real dwarfs too. If they did a remake worthy of the original, try to not remove what made it work in the first place and no more nostalgia pandering. Cinderella 2015 did just that.

 

[harry580]

Walt Disney always wanted to do something different and new when it comes to his films. If they were going to update Snow White, I personally suggest they would have tried to stay faithful to the simplicity of the fairy tale and not add anything that causes any divide or discourse amongst current day climates. The CGI dwarfs should have been real dwarfs too. If they did a remake worthy of the original, try to not remove what made it work in the first place and no more nostalgia pandering. Cinderella 2015 did just that.

well, have you heard of these?:

and of course, under my protest:

these are reimagines of classic tales, not full on remakes of classics (expect for the red riding hood & jack and the giant beanstalk since disney hasn't made those films (the latter they gonna do but got cancelled by John lasseter))

 

[awinger24]

well, have you heard of these?:
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these are reimagines of classic tales, not full on remakes of classics (expect for the red riding hood & jack and the giant beanstalk since disney hasn't made those films (the latter they gonna do but got cancelled by John lasseter))

Thank you. I think I forgot to add the fact that some of these remakes are trying to be carbon copies of the original. Reimaginings that do their own take like Cinderella 2015 or the examples you provided can work as long as they don't try to nostalgia pander. That's the problem with The Lion King 2019 and other recent remakes. Snow White 2025 tried to mash the two approaches together and it did not work.

 

[harry580]

while we on it, here's a film that fox produced that disney could have taken notes from:

a perfect movie with perfect concepts that disney could have taken but disney says: NO

 

[awinger24]

It's also a problem when you have people going on press tours like Rachel Zegler who try to trash the original film. And trying to change what made the original worked in order to be appropriate for modern audiences. Aladdin 2019 and The Little Mermaid 2023 had these changes that padded out the story. Psychologically, there is also a risk that people might view the original movies as problematic thinking Belle has Stockholm Syndrome and Ariel gives away everything for a boy. And whatever the remakes do to correct it, people will think on first watch it is definitive while the original is just kiddie fare. Not to mention the "Animation is for kids" discourse across Hollywood got backlash too which made me think these remakes devalue the original art.

 

[harry580]

It's also a problem when you have people going on press tours like Rachel Zegler who try to trash the original film. And trying to change what made the original worked in order to be appropriate for modern audiences. Aladdin 2019 and The Little Mermaid 2023 had these changes that padded out the story. Psychologically, there is also a risk that people might view the original movies as problematic thinking Belle has Stockholm Syndrome and Ariel gives away everything for a boy. And whatever the remakes do to correct it, people will think on first watch it is definitive while the original is just kiddie fare. Not to mention the "Animation is for kids" discourse across Hollywood got backlash too which made me think these remakes devalue the original art.

I agreed, its all Tim Burton fault for this thanks to his sorry excuse of anything named Alice in wonderland 2010

 

[Space Cadet]

so, what the future of these?, with Snow White bombing, what the future helds, I don't know the numbers for the live action lilo & stitch movie yet

The numbers are in for the first weekend of Lilo & Stitch and it did amazing both in America and worldwide, so Disney will probably continue with them for now.

 

[awinger24]

The numbers are in for the first weekend of Lilo & Stitch and it did amazing both in America and worldwide, so Disney will probably continue with them for now.

I have a certain feeling we will get that Tangled remake and countless more until Iger is no longer at the company.

 

[Elijah Abrams]

I have a certain feeling we will get that Tangled remake and countless more until Iger is no longer at the company.

Iger is planned to leave next year.

 

[awinger24]

Iger is planned to leave next year.

Even if he is not CEO after 2026, he could still stay on the company board and have a major influence on all aspects like John Malone is with WBD.