Mikethegreat1
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Hi folks, Mikethegreat1 here!
Here's a (kind of pointless) list of mine, it might also be the only one of its kind! Anyway, I have just finished a class on video editing at my local college.
And recently, I was somehow reminded of how... somehow, so many B&W Walter Lantz cartoons only exist to the public with timecodes. (A flashback to when I was skimming through a "Cartoons of 1939" blog, in 2019) ANYWAY... out of boredom I decided to make a list of all these timecodes, but then I discovered something while making them... I think they had a meaning! So... these cartoon films were apparently scanned to magnetic tape between July 21 and August 11, 1985 by a company called "AME Inc." for Universal Studios. Based on the content of the Jerry Beck Garage Sale DVDs that cost me a rather HUGE $140 in July. I also looked up AME Inc. and it seemed they did a lot of post-production work for TV episodes in the late 80s-early 90s and were located in Los Angeles.
I also noticed that between each cartoon there were 30-second intervals.. Possibly for commercials
MAYBE, Universal was going to release these B&W films as compilations on VHS tapes at one point? And/or maybe colorize them in one-hour TV slots in syndication? (I know about the "Toy Shoppe" test, maybe Fred Ladd wanted to do all the others, too) The world may never know at this point!
Another thing. If anyone on this board has the Garage Sale DVDs, you'll probably know that the tape that showed the "original titles" also showed a few politically incorrect scenes between the opening and ending. Namely, in Kings up, and The golfers. Maybe Universal was going to edit these scenes out when they were gonna colorize these? Just a thought.
I know it is incomplete, but since this website has been around since 2001... (older than me by 2 years, wow!) the complete VHS reels might still be in the collections of some of the people who have been on this board since the very beginning. Namely, Pietro Shakarian, David Gerstein, Tom Klein, etc.
Anyway, after a few days of countless and extensive rewinding and fast-forwarding on my DVD player, here is the list! Any help in filling in the blanks would be wonderful... If this list breaks any rules of Toonzone, I'll quickly delete it!
* means time-coded cartoon exists in its entirety
REEL ONE
?
6:10 – 11:53 Alaska [silent]
12:24 – 19:14 Amateur broadcast
19:44 – 26:41 Annie moved away
27:11 – 34:13 Barnyard Romeo
?
42:14 – 49:03 The big race
49:34 – 57:12 The birth of a toothpick
REEL TWO
0:00 – 7:12 Bronco buster
?
15:55 – 24:25 The candy house
?
?
40:07 – 47:36 Cat nipped
48:07 – 55:09 The cat & the bell
REEL THREE
0:00 – 7:13 Charlie Cuckoo
7:43 – 14:59 Cheese-nappers*
15:30 – 21:27 China [silent]
?
30:54 – 37:48 Country school* [silent]
?
45:36 – 53:46 Five n' dime
54:16 – 60:58 Fun house
REEL FOUR
0:00 - ? Grandma's pet (has no closing title)
?
?
?
?
?
44:18 – 52:00 House of magic*
REEL FIVE
0:00 – 6:48 In Wonderland [silent]
7:19 – 14:30 A jungle jumble
15:01 – 22:00 Keeper of the lions
22:31 – 31:27 King Klunk
31:58 – 39:23 Kings up (cut: scene with blackface)
39:53 – 46:39 Let's eat!
?
REEL SIX
?
8:32 – 14:14 Mexico* [silent]
14:45 – 21:57 Monkey wretches*
22:28 – 29:22 Movie phoney news
?
38:10 – 45:30 Nellie, Indian chief's daughter
46:00 – 53:15 Nellie of circus
REEL SEVEN
0:00 – 6:53 Parking space
?
17:17 – 24:18 Pixie Land*
?
32:42 – 39:26 Problem child
39:56 – 47:49 The quail hunt
48:19 – 54:05 Radio rhythm* [silent]
REEL EIGHT
?
7:44 – 13:47 Shipwreck [silent]
14:18 – 21:20 The shriek*
21:50 – 29:17 Silly seals
?
37:32 - 44:12 The singing sap [silent]
44:42 – 51:44 Slumberland Express
52:14 – 59:30 Softball game
REEL NINE
0:00 – 6:34 The stevedors
?
13:20 – 20:10 The tail end
?
?
?
?
REEL TEN
?
7:14 – 15:57 Wet knight*
16:27 – 24:16 The winged horse
?
32:00 – 39:53 She did him right
40:23 – 47:38 Football fever* [TV print]
?
REEL ELEVEN? (has no timecode for some reason)
The bandmaster*
The gingerbread boy
Goldilocks and the three bears
Kentucky bells
The lamplighter
Sky larks*
?
REEL TWELVE
1:00 – 6:55 The stone age
?
?
?
?
?
?
REEL THIRTEEN
0:00 – 7:12 The butcher boy* [TV print]
?
?
22:22 – 29:20 The navy
?
?
?
REEL FOURTEEN
0:00 – 6:39 The birthday party
?
?
23:59 – 30:02 College [silent]
30:35 – 39:03 The golfers (cut: scene with black stereotype)
?
46:51 – 53:51 Happy scouts (cut: Fooey wandering off the background? How is this problematic?)
REEL FIFTEEN
0:00 – 8:43 Hillbilly
9:17 – 15:47 Firemen's picnic
16:19 – 23:16 Ghost Town frolics
?
32:04 – 39:01 I'm just a jitterbug
39:33 – 46:46 Kiddie revue
47:17 – 54:45 Knights for a day
REEL SIXTEEN
0:59 – 7:25 Air Express
7:56 – 15:43 Alaska sweepstakes
?
?
33:33 – 41:12 Baby kittens*
41:44 – 48:42 The barnyard five
49:13 – 57:45 Beach combers
REEL SEVENTEEN
?
7:36 – 14:38 The big cat and the little mouse
15:09 – 22:03 Bird on Nellie's hat
22:35 – 29:22 Beauty shoppe*
29:54 - ? Beaus & arrows (has no closing title)
37:29 – 44:26 Bolo-Mola Land
44:57 – 52:38 Confidence*
REEL EIGHTEEN
0:58 – 7:08 County fair
7:40 – 14:21 Crackpot Cruise
14:52 – 21:49 The country store*
?
30:01 – 38:14 The disobedient mouse
38:48 – 45:40 Farming fools
46:11 – 53:25 Gopher trouble
REEL NINETEEN
0:00 – 6:56 Duck hunt
7:29 – 14:30 Everyone sing
15:03 – 21:47 Hollywood Bowl*
22:20 – 29:33 Little blue blackbird
30:06 – 36:59 Little tough mice
37:30 – 45:22 Lovesick
45:55 – 52:47 Lumber camp
REEL TWENTY
0:00 – 8:31 The lumber champ
9:05 – 16:36 Magic beans
17:09 – 24:01 Man hunt
24:35 – 32:16 The mechanical handyman
32:48 – 39:03 The mechanical man*
?
47:55 – 55:53 Music hath charms
REEL TWENTY-ONE
0:01 – 7:31 Ostrich feathers
8:03 – 15:24 The playful pup
15:50 – 24:03 The puppet show
24:36 – 31:59 The rabbit hunt
32:35 – 41:41 Robinson Crusoe isle
42:13 – 49:46 Night life of the bugs
50:20 – 58:03 Queen's kittens
REEL TWENTY-TWO
1:00 – 8:02 The one-armed bandit
?
?
?
30:42 – 39:40 Elmer the Great Dane
?
47:39 – 55:50 Wolf! Wolf!*
REEL TWENTY-THREE
1:01 – 9:25 The unpopular mechanic
9:58 – 18:03 Turkey dinner
?
?
33:42 – 41:29 Towne hall follies*
42:02 – 49:12 The wily weasel
49:44 – 56:45 Wins out
REEL TWENTY-FOUR
?
8:58 – 16:03 Steel workers*
16:37 – 23:38 Slaphappy Valley*
24:10 – 38:02 The fireman [silent] (suddenly jumps from 30:47 to 37:57)
38:36 – 47:07 Two little lambs
47:39 – 53:47 The clown
61:00 – 69:12 The terrible troubadour
REEL TWENTY-FIVE?
?
?
18:20 – 24:36 The farmer
Now here are some "miscellaneous reels" as I called them, that showed some Oswalds from 1929-1930. Something tells me they WEREN'T going to colorize these...
REEL A
1:30:06 - 1:37:26 Chilly con Carmen*
REEL B (a lot of intervals here. Maybe for other Universal stuff, like newsreels)
0:01:05 – 0:08:17 Day nurse
0:08:44 - 0:14:44 The hash shop*
0:25:35 - 0:31:58 Hell's heels*
0:39:22 - 0:45:55 Henpecked*
0:56:20 - 1:02:04 Hot for Hollywood* [silent]
1:17:23 - 1:23:36 Hurdy gurdy*
1:43:53 – 1:51:04 In the zoo
REEL C
1:08:38 - 1:15:29 Kounty fair* [silent]
1:15:53 - 1:22:42 My pal Paul*
1:23:15 – 1:30:09 The mysterious jug
1:30:32 - 1:37:07 Not so quiet*
1:37:32 - 1:44:11 Oil's well*
1:44:38 - 1:51:15 Permanent wave*
REEL D
0:59:59 - 1:05:44 The prison panic*
1:06:09 - 1:12:37 Race riot*
REEL E
1:28:48 - 1:34:41 Snappy salesman *
1:35:05 - 1:41:51 Snow use*
1:42:14 - 1:48:43 Spooks*
REEL F
1:00:01 – 1:06:46 Sunny south [silent]
1:13:53 - 1:19:43 Tramping tramps*
REEL G
1:07:50 – 1:14:57 Springtime serenade*
MCA #10606
Amature nite* [silent]
Here's a (kind of pointless) list of mine, it might also be the only one of its kind! Anyway, I have just finished a class on video editing at my local college.
And recently, I was somehow reminded of how... somehow, so many B&W Walter Lantz cartoons only exist to the public with timecodes. (A flashback to when I was skimming through a "Cartoons of 1939" blog, in 2019) ANYWAY... out of boredom I decided to make a list of all these timecodes, but then I discovered something while making them... I think they had a meaning! So... these cartoon films were apparently scanned to magnetic tape between July 21 and August 11, 1985 by a company called "AME Inc." for Universal Studios. Based on the content of the Jerry Beck Garage Sale DVDs that cost me a rather HUGE $140 in July. I also looked up AME Inc. and it seemed they did a lot of post-production work for TV episodes in the late 80s-early 90s and were located in Los Angeles.
I also noticed that between each cartoon there were 30-second intervals.. Possibly for commercials
MAYBE, Universal was going to release these B&W films as compilations on VHS tapes at one point? And/or maybe colorize them in one-hour TV slots in syndication? (I know about the "Toy Shoppe" test, maybe Fred Ladd wanted to do all the others, too) The world may never know at this point!
Another thing. If anyone on this board has the Garage Sale DVDs, you'll probably know that the tape that showed the "original titles" also showed a few politically incorrect scenes between the opening and ending. Namely, in Kings up, and The golfers. Maybe Universal was going to edit these scenes out when they were gonna colorize these? Just a thought.
I know it is incomplete, but since this website has been around since 2001... (older than me by 2 years, wow!) the complete VHS reels might still be in the collections of some of the people who have been on this board since the very beginning. Namely, Pietro Shakarian, David Gerstein, Tom Klein, etc.
Anyway, after a few days of countless and extensive rewinding and fast-forwarding on my DVD player, here is the list! Any help in filling in the blanks would be wonderful... If this list breaks any rules of Toonzone, I'll quickly delete it!
* means time-coded cartoon exists in its entirety
REEL ONE
?
6:10 – 11:53 Alaska [silent]
12:24 – 19:14 Amateur broadcast
19:44 – 26:41 Annie moved away
27:11 – 34:13 Barnyard Romeo
?
42:14 – 49:03 The big race
49:34 – 57:12 The birth of a toothpick
REEL TWO
0:00 – 7:12 Bronco buster
?
15:55 – 24:25 The candy house
?
?
40:07 – 47:36 Cat nipped
48:07 – 55:09 The cat & the bell
REEL THREE
0:00 – 7:13 Charlie Cuckoo
7:43 – 14:59 Cheese-nappers*
15:30 – 21:27 China [silent]
?
30:54 – 37:48 Country school* [silent]
?
45:36 – 53:46 Five n' dime
54:16 – 60:58 Fun house
REEL FOUR
0:00 - ? Grandma's pet (has no closing title)
?
?
?
?
?
44:18 – 52:00 House of magic*
REEL FIVE
0:00 – 6:48 In Wonderland [silent]
7:19 – 14:30 A jungle jumble
15:01 – 22:00 Keeper of the lions
22:31 – 31:27 King Klunk
31:58 – 39:23 Kings up (cut: scene with blackface)
39:53 – 46:39 Let's eat!
?
REEL SIX
?
8:32 – 14:14 Mexico* [silent]
14:45 – 21:57 Monkey wretches*
22:28 – 29:22 Movie phoney news
?
38:10 – 45:30 Nellie, Indian chief's daughter
46:00 – 53:15 Nellie of circus
REEL SEVEN
0:00 – 6:53 Parking space
?
17:17 – 24:18 Pixie Land*
?
32:42 – 39:26 Problem child
39:56 – 47:49 The quail hunt
48:19 – 54:05 Radio rhythm* [silent]
REEL EIGHT
?
7:44 – 13:47 Shipwreck [silent]
14:18 – 21:20 The shriek*
21:50 – 29:17 Silly seals
?
37:32 - 44:12 The singing sap [silent]
44:42 – 51:44 Slumberland Express
52:14 – 59:30 Softball game
REEL NINE
0:00 – 6:34 The stevedors
?
13:20 – 20:10 The tail end
?
?
?
?
REEL TEN
?
7:14 – 15:57 Wet knight*
16:27 – 24:16 The winged horse
?
32:00 – 39:53 She did him right
40:23 – 47:38 Football fever* [TV print]
?
REEL ELEVEN? (has no timecode for some reason)
The bandmaster*
The gingerbread boy
Goldilocks and the three bears
Kentucky bells
The lamplighter
Sky larks*
?
REEL TWELVE
1:00 – 6:55 The stone age
?
?
?
?
?
?
REEL THIRTEEN
0:00 – 7:12 The butcher boy* [TV print]
?
?
22:22 – 29:20 The navy
?
?
?
REEL FOURTEEN
0:00 – 6:39 The birthday party
?
?
23:59 – 30:02 College [silent]
30:35 – 39:03 The golfers (cut: scene with black stereotype)
?
46:51 – 53:51 Happy scouts (cut: Fooey wandering off the background? How is this problematic?)
REEL FIFTEEN
0:00 – 8:43 Hillbilly
9:17 – 15:47 Firemen's picnic
16:19 – 23:16 Ghost Town frolics
?
32:04 – 39:01 I'm just a jitterbug
39:33 – 46:46 Kiddie revue
47:17 – 54:45 Knights for a day
REEL SIXTEEN
0:59 – 7:25 Air Express
7:56 – 15:43 Alaska sweepstakes
?
?
33:33 – 41:12 Baby kittens*
41:44 – 48:42 The barnyard five
49:13 – 57:45 Beach combers
REEL SEVENTEEN
?
7:36 – 14:38 The big cat and the little mouse
15:09 – 22:03 Bird on Nellie's hat
22:35 – 29:22 Beauty shoppe*
29:54 - ? Beaus & arrows (has no closing title)
37:29 – 44:26 Bolo-Mola Land
44:57 – 52:38 Confidence*
REEL EIGHTEEN
0:58 – 7:08 County fair
7:40 – 14:21 Crackpot Cruise
14:52 – 21:49 The country store*
?
30:01 – 38:14 The disobedient mouse
38:48 – 45:40 Farming fools
46:11 – 53:25 Gopher trouble
REEL NINETEEN
0:00 – 6:56 Duck hunt
7:29 – 14:30 Everyone sing
15:03 – 21:47 Hollywood Bowl*
22:20 – 29:33 Little blue blackbird
30:06 – 36:59 Little tough mice
37:30 – 45:22 Lovesick
45:55 – 52:47 Lumber camp
REEL TWENTY
0:00 – 8:31 The lumber champ
9:05 – 16:36 Magic beans
17:09 – 24:01 Man hunt
24:35 – 32:16 The mechanical handyman
32:48 – 39:03 The mechanical man*
?
47:55 – 55:53 Music hath charms
REEL TWENTY-ONE
0:01 – 7:31 Ostrich feathers
8:03 – 15:24 The playful pup
15:50 – 24:03 The puppet show
24:36 – 31:59 The rabbit hunt
32:35 – 41:41 Robinson Crusoe isle
42:13 – 49:46 Night life of the bugs
50:20 – 58:03 Queen's kittens
REEL TWENTY-TWO
1:00 – 8:02 The one-armed bandit
?
?
?
30:42 – 39:40 Elmer the Great Dane
?
47:39 – 55:50 Wolf! Wolf!*
REEL TWENTY-THREE
1:01 – 9:25 The unpopular mechanic
9:58 – 18:03 Turkey dinner
?
?
33:42 – 41:29 Towne hall follies*
42:02 – 49:12 The wily weasel
49:44 – 56:45 Wins out
REEL TWENTY-FOUR
?
8:58 – 16:03 Steel workers*
16:37 – 23:38 Slaphappy Valley*
24:10 – 38:02 The fireman [silent] (suddenly jumps from 30:47 to 37:57)
38:36 – 47:07 Two little lambs
47:39 – 53:47 The clown
61:00 – 69:12 The terrible troubadour
REEL TWENTY-FIVE?
?
?
18:20 – 24:36 The farmer
Now here are some "miscellaneous reels" as I called them, that showed some Oswalds from 1929-1930. Something tells me they WEREN'T going to colorize these...
REEL A
1:30:06 - 1:37:26 Chilly con Carmen*
REEL B (a lot of intervals here. Maybe for other Universal stuff, like newsreels)
0:01:05 – 0:08:17 Day nurse
0:08:44 - 0:14:44 The hash shop*
0:25:35 - 0:31:58 Hell's heels*
0:39:22 - 0:45:55 Henpecked*
0:56:20 - 1:02:04 Hot for Hollywood* [silent]
1:17:23 - 1:23:36 Hurdy gurdy*
1:43:53 – 1:51:04 In the zoo
REEL C
1:08:38 - 1:15:29 Kounty fair* [silent]
1:15:53 - 1:22:42 My pal Paul*
1:23:15 – 1:30:09 The mysterious jug
1:30:32 - 1:37:07 Not so quiet*
1:37:32 - 1:44:11 Oil's well*
1:44:38 - 1:51:15 Permanent wave*
REEL D
0:59:59 - 1:05:44 The prison panic*
1:06:09 - 1:12:37 Race riot*
REEL E
1:28:48 - 1:34:41 Snappy salesman *
1:35:05 - 1:41:51 Snow use*
1:42:14 - 1:48:43 Spooks*
REEL F
1:00:01 – 1:06:46 Sunny south [silent]
1:13:53 - 1:19:43 Tramping tramps*
REEL G
1:07:50 – 1:14:57 Springtime serenade*
MCA #10606
Amature nite* [silent]
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