Romance in Marvel Animation

[cheeno]

I dont know why many people hate Jean and Scott.But I found the couple quite interesting.Their love story was best potrayed in evo and it could have done an even better job while the show lasted for its' 5th season.

 

[Spider-Man]

I dont know why many people hate Jean and Scott.But I found the couple quite interesting.Their love story was best potrayed in evo and it could have done an even better job while the show lasted for its' 5th season.

Not quite. I thought their love story wasn't portrayed that well at all. We got the typical teen angst and they just gradually came together. I thought it could've been handled just a bit better. They could've thrown a twist or two in there to add a shock or two. It was portrayed in a pretty standard way.

 

[Bones Justice]

It probably got very difficult for the writers to keep coming up with moments in the cartoon for the two characters. The comics can't just stretch things out for years but the cartoons are different. I did like the initial idea of them being a struggling couple but the fact that the cartoons couldn't find ways to keep it constantly entertaining show that maybe this is one relationship that's not meant to be.

Right, that's why I think it's one of the best that's been done. Like a real unworkable relationship, it's hot in the beginning then trails off in the end. I always find it a lot more unbelievable when the story has them come together happily ever after. It's very unrealistic unless something drastically changes and it rarely does. In this case, you either have to have Rogue lose her powers (not entertaining) or have some plot-device that allows them to come together (usually not believable (and no pun intended, of course)).

I count Rogue and Gambit from X-Men TAS as one of the best because it was engaging at first and truthful to the end.

 

[Nygma]

Not sure if Arsenal has the will to upgrade the romances in this thread. But I feel some of them in Spectacular Spider-Man have earned a spot or two in this thread, despite them not reaching the potential that they're capable of reaching. But given more seasons I imagine it would be able to do that.

Oh and there's also Wolverine and the X-Men, so how about the recent romances?

 

[Arsenal]

Y'know, Nygma, I think you're right. At the very least, Gwen & Peter deserve some love. (I have a soft spot for Peter & Liz, also.) It probably deserves a new thread though.

 

[sdp]

I'm confused at what the thread is about, relationships that were done well or just ships you support? I'm assuming its the former but some choices make it seem like its the latter.

First I'll go through his list and then post the ones I believe deserve attention that don't really get.

10. Felicia Hardy and Peter Parker (TAS)

While I didn't want them together in the end, this pairing was done so well through out all seasons of the show, at first you think the relationship is over but then it comes back again, They really did have great chemistry, would have loved to see another Spiderman season mostly because I was sure it'd have more romantic interaction between them.

9. Logan and Ororo Munroe (TAS)

Such an odd pairing but yeah I'd agree that it was done great, by the end of the episode I truly did feel bad for them.

8. Alicia Masters and Ben Grimm

Meh, it was there but it was done really poorly in the 90s animated show, it was done much better in the FF:WGHs though it still wasn't great. I like the pairing but it hasn't been done great in animation. WGH didn't do bad but could be better.

7. Nova and Silver Surfer

This one feels like a ship, SS was not interested in Nova at all, he was all about Shalla Bal in his show. In fact if you used the SS/Alicia Masters from the FF then maybe I'd agree, that was done pretty good there you could see maybe SS and Alicia could have something but his love for Shalla Bal truly felt tragic, he spent the entire season trying to get to her.

6. Bruce Banner and Betty Ross

Meh, I thought this wasn't handled too well.

5. Scott Summers and Jean Grey (TAS)

I prefer the TAS version over Evo, I don't know the Evo one felt kind of forced at times and Jean going out with the other guy at first didn't work out too well either.

There were times when I liked the Evo's version more but it was never followed through. It was when Rogue would show interest in Cyclops and Jean getting jealous, they showed it on various episodes but never culminated it with an episode, such a wasted opportunity. It would have been a great episode and maybe made me like this version better but it didn't happen so yeah TAS.

4. Mary Jane Watson and Peter Parker (MTV)

What? this one didn't make much sense at all. It was supposed to based off the movie continuity but it didn't fit with the characters in the movie. In the show MJ would always try to get all flirty with Peter and whatnot and Peter would just blow her off.

3. Lance Alvers and Kitty Pride (Evo)

I liked how they continued it through out the later seasons somewhat, I was sure it was going to be forgotten. It fits that universe fine. Nightcrawler was kind of forgotten and only brought back when they wanted, it started off ok but it was handled terribly later only using it randomly in the future and then forgetting it again. I mean it could have been an interesting love triangle instead of forgotten, and Nightcrawler ended up without no one pretty much because of it.

2. Wanda Maximoff and Wonder Man/Vision

Yeah, this one was actually pretty interesting, especially when both Wonder Man and Vision are alive at the same time, much more could have been explored too bad we didn't get to see it happen.

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1. Tony Stark and Julia Carpenter
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Another one that was just kind of there but was handled terribly.


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So yeah for my list besides the ones i really like from above I'll include:

Peter Parker Unlimited/Naoko/green goblin/shane/mj
This one was done in a subtle way but it was there. We know Peters love of his life is Mary Jane, but now that he is on counter earth he is living with Naoko and you can kind of see Naoko and Peter become close, shane really likes peter and not only does Peter have MJ on earth waiting for him but the green goblin is the husband of Naoko. It was clear the second season was going to go through with it to make the GG his enemy on counter earth.


MTV's Peter Parker and Indy
What I thought it'd be something annoying I ended up really liking it, she and peter made a great couple which only made her death much harder. Unlike MJ it really felt like both people were interested.


I know some people here mentioned Beast and that girl from TAS and yeah it was handled well but I also thought the one with the computer falls in love with Beast was a good romance episode.

Also out of all of Jonny's love interest in FF TAS the one that felt the best was Frankie/Nova.

 

[W.C.Reaf]

I liked how they continued it through out the later seasons somewhat, I was sure it was going to be forgotten. It fits that universe fine. Nightcrawler was kind of forgotten and only brought back when they wanted, it started off ok but it was handled terribly later only using it randomly in the future and then forgetting it again. I mean it could have been an interesting love triangle instead of forgotten, and Nightcrawler ended up without no one pretty much because of it.

Except for his girlfriend, whose name I can't remember, from season 2 onwards.

I never really got the whole Kitty/Kurt thing. Sure he had a crush on her at the beginning but they pretty much became good friends with no hints of crushes either way towards the end of season 1.

MTV's Peter Parker and Indy
What I thought it'd be something annoying I ended up really liking it, she and peter made a great couple which only made her death much harder. Unlike MJ it really felt like both people were interested.

This couple doesn't make any sense to me. The show was meant to be in continuity with the movies and at the end of 1 he decided to no date MJ because it was too dangerous being the girlfriend of a superhero. So why is it suddenly not dangerous for Indy?

 

[sdp]

Except for his girlfriend, whose name I can't remember, from season 2 onwards.

I never really got the whole Kitty/Kurt thing. Sure he had a crush on her at the beginning but they pretty much became good friends with no hints of crushes either way towards the end of season 1.

He tried to date Boom Boom but it didn't work out, in that episode they totally ignored his crush on Kitty. And no, he showed his crush through out the whole show, even after his time with Boom Boom. And no it wasn't just friends, Kitty also after dating Avalanche showed some feelings for Kurt. I don't remember what episodes but it was still there, I remember it bothered me how they would sometimes bring it up and then forget about it.

This couple doesn't make any sense to me. The show was meant to be in continuity with the movies and at the end of 1 he decided to no date MJ because it was too dangerous being the girlfriend of a superhero. So why is it suddenly not dangerous for Indy?

It was meant to be in continuity with the movie but it doesn't really fit in continuity at all, the characters all act way too different and it makes no sense for it to be in continuity. It does take a few elements from the movie but besides that it ignores it and it'd be hard to even try to fit it in continuity so yeah.

 

[Golgo-13]

X MEN: TAS Rogue & Gambit

The greatest romance for me in the Marvel cartoons was the one between Rogue and Gambit in the 90's animation series. I'm sorry if this sounds weird but even this one got my hormones pumping!

Just image; a gorgeous woman with curves in all the right places; a southern country girl, living in the house with you, yearning to be touched; yearning for male companionship..and you can't touch her, or you'll die! You could tell they both wanted each other, and you knew they would never hook up....but you still wanted to see it happen.

I loved it!

 

[Ian]

When it comes to romance in The Spectacular Spider-Man, I honestly wish there was less of it. While I realize that the characters are teens, and therefore place an undue amount of attention on it, for me, a little of it goes a long way. Plus, it feels to me that it falls into the same trap a lot of shows fall into; the belief that a happy relationship is a boring or uneventful relationship. Personally, I would have been more than happy to have seen Peter and Gwen as a couple during season 2--or heck, if he was going to be with Liz, to get the feeling that the relationship was actually a viable one for both sides, and not something that felt like an obstacle to his being with Gwen.

 

[sdp]

I actually found the relationships the most interesting part of Spectacular Spiderman, if it wasn't for it I'd find a lot of episodes "meh". Spectacular Spiderman is one of the most realistic portrayal of real life relationships, and at least in animation only beaten by Undergrads.

 

[Gokou Ruri]

When it comes to romance in The Spectacular Spider-Man, I honestly wish there was less of it. While I realize that the characters are teens, and therefore place an undue amount of attention on it, for me, a little of it goes a long way. Plus, it feels to me that it falls into the same trap a lot of shows fall into; the belief that a happy relationship is a boring or uneventful relationship. Personally, I would have been more than happy to have seen Peter and Gwen as a couple during season 2--or heck, if he was going to be with Liz, to get the feeling that the relationship was actually a viable one for both sides, and not something that felt like an obstacle to his being with Gwen.

This is how I feel. It would have been nice if Peter and Gwen hooked up in the beginning of season 2 and gave a new dynamic to the show. Then perhaps have Peter reveal to her that he's Spider-Man and offer an even more interesting dynamic to it. Instead, they kind of just drew it out as long as they could and threw Liz into the mix to stretch it out more. It wouldn't be as bad if anything actually of substance actually came out of it, but Liz felt like a device to waste time considering they really only show her go on one date with Peter in their whole relationship.

 

[carnage89]

I think Greg will hook Peter & Gwen in season 5 so the first DVD would be The Death Of Gwen Stacy. In season 3 Harry obviously will be in the way of them both getting together.

 

[kid rabbit]

I think spectacular spider man did a better job with the Peter/Gwen romance than even the comics
I've read some essentials and it felt like they were estrange for most of the story s and started dating out of nowhere
maybe it was because in her first appearance she was sort of a royal pain
(nobody ignores Gwen Stacy) actual quote from the comic

 

[suss2it]

I never really got the whole Kitty/Kurt thing. Sure he had a crush on her at the beginning but they pretty much became good friends with no hints of crushes either way towards the end of season 1.

I remember in the christmas episode Kurt kept trying to get Kitty under a mistletoe to kiss her, which was in season 2.

 

[Anwar]

To be honest I'm hoping that Weisman will have Peter and Gwen get together either early into S3 or halfway through, subverting the cliche "get together at the end" type thing.

 

[W.C.Reaf]

I remember in the christmas episode Kurt kept trying to get Kitty under a mistletoe to kiss her, which was in season 2.

I stand corrected.

I'd completely forgotten about that moment, and it's in one of my favourite eps as well.

 

[cradleman]

My favorite of those posted was the Lance/Kitty relationship, maybe because i have always loved Shadowcat. Either way, it was totally believable, and very cute and funny too. great stuff. Evo's Scott and Jean was also a thing of beauty, easily the best romance between the characters i can think of, including the comics. If Peter/Gwen ever get together in TSSM, though, that will top my list for sure. they are AWESOME together.

 

[SpideyFan914]

My list:

1. Peter/Gwen (TSSM)- Seriously, TSSM is the just about the only show that consistently interests me in the romances. Usually, they bore me to death, but Weisman actually does it right!

2. Gambit/Rogue (TAS)- For the reasons already mentioned (except for the horny one).

3. Peter/Liz (TSSM)- Hypocrisy? I think not! I saw it as waaaaaaaaay more than just another obstacle! Peter was the first person to ever treat Liz as a true friend (Sally? Pfft....), and, though she had a hard time surrendering her popularity for it, she actually did! But the conflict was, though Liz truly loved Peter, Peter did not truly love Liz.... And the breakup? I expected it to be painful (especially as they begun falling into cliches.... "You're breaking up with me?"), but afterwards, I was literally gaping!

4. Peter/Felicia (TSSM)- Again, it's moreso on Black Cat's part, but still, it's interesting. She has this little crush on Spider-Man, and then.... Opening Night....

5. Peter/Felicia (TAS)- Y'know, I never really thought about that much, but.... You guys are right - they did have chemistry!

6. Rand/Sally (TSSM)- I couldn't resist.

7. Peter/Naoko/Gobby/MJ (SMU)- Though it's been a while since I saw it, I do recall loving this show despite the bad reviews, and the whole Gobby storyline is one of the biggest things which stick out in my memory.

8. Mark/MJ (TSSM)- Yes, I know, it's becoming overkill. But still, this relationship was pretty well done - the two characters who are supposedly above "petty high school relationships" fall for each other, and then the one turns into Molten Man.

9. Eddie/Ashley (TAS)- Surprised this one hasn't been mentioned. Venom falls in love. Wow.

10. Norman/Gwen (TSSM)- I'M KIDDING!!!!! I'M KIDDING!!!!! Sheesh.... You don't take out the pitchforks and torches every time I make a little joke....

Yeah, I've essentially listed all the ones I like (I'm usually either indifferent, or find them annoying), though I do have a soft spot for Norin/Shallah (SS), John/Redhead-girl (SMU), Blade/Terry (TAS), and Morbius/Felicia (TAS) as well. Haven't seen Hulk, Iron Man, FF, or Avengers series, though.

What? No Evo? Is this a typo? Just wanna say - that is not a typo. I loved Evo, but seriously, the relationships in that were really boring and way too shippie for my tastes....