Superman power comparison

[Joe Wagner]

I agree with Justice League Dude - I still enjoy the show but I really wish Superman had a bigger role in the show and would stop holding back on his powers. I have high hopes that Superman snaps to upper Legacy levels and decimates everyone in his path. How cool would it be to see Supes go through an entire hoard of parademons again? Oh yea!

-Joe!

 

[RookiePR]

Superheroes powers comparison

Hi, all can anyone tell me where can I find info on the superheroes powers comparison??? e.g. How many tons can Superman and the Hulk lift??? Something in that line of comparison. I've llooked everywhere with no result. I'll apreciate your help. Thanks!!

 

[Frank White]

DC has never published how much their characters can lift.

 

[randomguy]

Actually, Captain Marvel has beaten Superman, on at least two occasions. He did it in Superman/Batman #4, and more notably, in Kingdom Come. It's worth saying that the Kingdom Come Superman was actually more powerful than the comics version typically is, and Marvel still wiped the floor with him. Superman's brute strength may be more than Marvel's, but Marvel's power is drawn from magical sources, giving him the edge.

I don't think Superman needs, by definition, to be the most powerful character around. He should be the biggest and the most visible, certainly, but not necessarily the most powerful. It's not Superman's power that gives him his status both within the main comics and the DCAU, but his ideals, his character, and the overall message of hope and strength that he conveys.

Off the top of my head, I can think of at least a few characters with strength equal to or surpassing Superman's. There's the aforementioned Captain Marvel. The Spectre could take him down, provided he had justification. A Green Lantern with the right amount of willpower might be capable of doing so. At the peak of his power (with the ability to transfer motion to other molecules), the Flash could probably swing it. Doomsday did kill him. Plastic Man could probably suffocate him. I bet Imperiex could tear him limb from limb.

Anyways, you see my point.

 

[batman_batman]

i think that the complaint about superman is legitimate. he's the most powerful guy on the planet so of course he's going to get beat up a lot.
he's the only one that can take a beating which is why a lot of people think
he's weak. basically i've said this before. superman could handle all the situtations on the jl show by himself. but the rest of the leaguers need something to do so that's why he takes a beating.
if darkseid punched batman, he'd be dead. anyway the real complaint is when superman gets hit by bullets or lasers and gets knocked back a hundred feet. bullets and lasers shouldn't affect him. nothing should really. i want to see an episode where superman just kicks every villains butt and the rest of the league just kicks back and watches him finish the bad guys off and at the end. they hold up point cards. batman would give a 6.0 and the rest of the league would probably give a 9 or 10.

 

[SimonMoon5]

Hi, all can anyone tell me where can I find info on the superheroes powers comparison??? e.g. How many tons can Superman and the Hulk lift??? Something in that line of comparison. I've llooked everywhere with no result. I'll apreciate your help. Thanks!!

Which Superman and which Hulk? Animated versions? Modern comic versions? Classic comics versions?

For the Silver Age Superman, he was rated at a 50 STR in the official DC Heroes RPG. This means that he can lift 2^50 times 50 lbs. The Modern Age Superman was rated at a mere 25 STR, meaning that he can lift 2^25 * 50 lbs.

By my calculations (using a calculator), that means that the Silver Age Superman can lift about 2,814,749,767,080 tons (yes, 2 *trillion* tons), while the Modern Age Superman is a weakling who can lift only 838,860.8 tons (almost one million tons).

Marvel has been more vague. The Hulk is often in "Class 100" meaning that he can lift more than 100 tons. How much more? Probably a lot, but beyond that level, Marvel tends not to be specific.

 

[RookiePR]

Nice data

Which Superman and which Hulk? Animated versions? Modern comic versions? Classic comics versions?

For the Silver Age Superman, he was rated at a 50 STR in the official DC Heroes RPG. This means that he can lift 2^50 times 50 lbs. The Modern Age Superman was rated at a mere 25 STR, meaning that he can lift 2^25 * 50 lbs.

By my calculations (using a calculator), that means that the Silver Age Superman can lift about 2,814,749,767,080 tons (yes, 2 *trillion* tons), while the Modern Age Superman is a weakling who can lift only 838,860.8 tons (almost one million tons).

Marvel has been more vague. The Hulk is often in "Class 100" meaning that he can lift more than 100 tons. How much more? Probably a lot, but beyond that level, Marvel tends not to be specific.

Thats impresive, but since im new in the comics scenario, i dont understand some of your terms. Like STR, RPG means role playing games??? And 2^50 what does it means??? Sorry for my newbie questions. And thanks for your reply!

 

[Hatter]

It isn't common sense, it's lazy storytelling. The weaker the character, the easier it is to find a conflict for him. Of course, it's a betrayal of the core essence of the character, but what do they care?

"The core essence of the character"? Despite the fact that when Superman first appeared, he was little more than the ultimate athlete? He couldn't fly, couldn't shoot heat beams, and lifting a car was plenty. If Siegel & Shuster didn't define Superman's essence, who did?

The point is, Superman's strength levels have changed constantly over his 60+ year history. He really has no "set" strength level, so it's best to just let the writers create the best stories possible, instead of bogging them down with petty minutiae.

 

[SimonMoon5]

Thats impresive, but since im new in the comics scenario, i dont understand some of your terms. Like STR, RPG means role playing games??? And 2^50 what does it means??? Sorry for my newbie questions. And thanks for your reply!

Sorry. RPG is in fact role-playing game. Str is strength. 2^50 means 2 to the 50th power (can't write exponents in plain text).

 

[Anime_girl]

Actually, Captain Marvel has beaten Superman, on at least two occasions. He did it in Superman/Batman #4, and more notably, in Kingdom Come. It's worth saying that the Kingdom Come Superman was actually more powerful than the comics version typically is, and Marvel still wiped the floor with him. Superman's brute strength may be more than Marvel's, but Marvel's power is drawn from magical sources, giving him the edge.

I don't think Superman needs, by definition, to be the most powerful character around. He should be the biggest and the most visible, certainly, but not necessarily the most powerful. It's not Superman's power that gives him his status both within the main comics and the DCAU, but his ideals, his character, and the overall message of hope and strength that he conveys.

Off the top of my head, I can think of at least a few characters with strength equal to or surpassing Superman's. There's the aforementioned Captain Marvel. The Spectre could take him down, provided he had justification. A Green Lantern with the right amount of willpower might be capable of doing so. At the peak of his power (with the ability to transfer motion to other molecules), the Flash could probably swing it. Doomsday did kill him. Plastic Man could probably suffocate him. I bet Imperiex could tear him limb from limb.

Anyways, you see my point.

Actually marvel was weaking him with the lighting bolts and superman was trying to reason with a brainwash captian marvel and superman won (bearly) the fight, also they were stallmat in the Superman/Batman #4,with marvel giving superman a bloody nosed and (with superman fighting other heros and other things).It was hawkman who knock out superman(with that glove of his with the power of the planet),who also in the next issue batman and superman defeated hawkman and captain marvel(Off panel).

And dude plasticman come on plasticman?

 

[randomguy]

Actually marvel was weaking him with the lighting and superman was trying to reason with a brainwash captian marvel and superman won (bearly) the fight also they were stallmat in the Superman/Batman #4,with marvel giving superman a bloody nosed and (with superman been fighting other heros and other things).It was hawkman who knock out superman(with that glove of his with the power of the planet),who also in the next issue batman and superman defeated hawman and cpatain marvel(Off panel).

And dude plasticman come on plasticman?

Nah, I don't think Superman won the Kingdom Come fight. I have a feeling Batson could have transformed and finished him off. Of course, we'll never know, because he got nuked. You're right about Superman/Batman, but once again... all the signs point towards Marvel being stronger. He is "The World's Mightiest Mortal", after all. And besides, Alex Ross says Marvel would win. And Alex Ross is the man.

As for Plastic Man... all I can say is that Plas is more powerful than people give him credit for. He isn't particularly strong, but he is almost completely unbreakable. If he could manage to wrap himself completely around Superman, I don't know what Supes could do about it.

Besides, he was the only Leaguer with the moxy to take down Fernus.