"Young Justice" News & Discussion Thread, Part 26 (Spoilers)

[The Crimson Chin]

Comic Book Resources article on "The Multiversity" - a DC event on the Multiverse spearheaded by Grant Morrison. There's some interesting stuff regarding Earth-16.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54354

Paragraphs referencing Earth-16.

Spoiler

"The Multiversity: The Just" takes place on Earth 16 featuring the descendants of Batman, Superman and others as inspired by the classic Bob Haney superhero stories. Here, the teens no longer have any villains to fight, and Morrison calls them "flat, kind of feckless characters" in the vein of reality shows like "The Hills" (which he joked, "Does anyone remember that?") while Connor Hawke will be the Bill Ray Cyrus of the world trying to stop his daughter from becoming involved in the superhero world to be corrupted. "This is quite a fun book, and the more I see of Ben Oliver's art, the more fun it gets," the writer explained. Morrison himself designed the Atom for this world based on the teenage Ray Palmer from Dan Jurgens' "Teen Titans" run in the late '90s.

In this world, Lex Luthor's daughter Alexis is dating Damian Wayne -- however this doesn't sit well with Superman's son since Lex killed Superman in this world. A twist on "the World's Finest romance" as Morrison described it. The book will also include other legacy characters from the '90s like Donna Troy, Kyle Rayner, Wally West and Offspring from "The Kingdom."
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The idea that Earth 16 was marked off as "Young Justice's" world while Morrison picked the name for his own legacy character world came up, and the writer said that when he learned of the conflict, he personally devised ideas for how the "Young Justice" cast could have existed in this world/how his characters could occasionally use holograms in order to look like cartoons. It won't be a major focus of the story in any sense, but everything can fit together for fans who care about that.

My thoughts

Spoiler

I don't like it. I get the sense that Greg Weisman wasn't informed about this and I'm not sure I like the idea of Grant Morrison deciding the future of Young Justice. I suppose you could say this is just a possible future, but that means that the original Earth-16/Young Justice was wiped out from the Multiverse, which I also don't like.

And yeah I pretty much made this account to discuss this with you guys lol.

 

[Yojimbo]

I find it lame, go get another Earth- , problem solved.

 

[Medinnus]

I find it lame, go get another Earth- , problem solved.

I agree. That said, its not the first time that an egocentric creator has ignored/pre-empted/pooted upon the work of a past creator. Kind of problematic in the comics business.

 

[Yojimbo]

I agree. That said, its not the first time that an egocentric creator has ignored/pre-empted/pooted upon the work of a past creator. Kind of problematic in the comics business.

It's basically Batman Beyond all over again.

 

[The Crimson Chin]

The more I think about it, the more it pisses me off. Sucks since everything else about the event I'm pretty excited for. His map of the multiverse looked awesome. Makes me wonder whether he'll include the DCAU and Batman: The Brave and the Bold universes (the two animated series universes worth preserving along with Young Justice imo) or just erase them too.

Tbh I think I would've been happier if Young Justice was just erased from the Multiverse rather than eventually culminating in the future described in Multiversity: The Just.

Would be interesting to hear what Greg Weisman has to say though.

 

[M.O.D.O.K.]

Oh man, this reminds me of how Weisman was unhappy in how Morrison handled one of his Captain Atom characters, General Wade Eilling.

Honestly, I don't really mind this change too much. I kinda removed the YJ universe from the rest of the multiverse a while back from my mind anyway.

 

[W.C.Reaf]

Meh, it doesn't matter. It's probably even better that Morrison is just ignoring Earth-16 and creating his own.

If this was actually the YJ Earth, if he was planning on using it, chances are they'd be killed off, or used in incredibly out of character/didn't do the research writing. Like what happened when they started the Batman Beyond comic.

Then there's the fact that if it had been YJ there'd be the inevitable "is this canon" fan arguments. It's just better that it isn't going to be used here.

 

[veemonjosh]

Makes me wonder whether he'll include the DCAU and Batman: The Brave and the Bold universes (the two animated series universes worth preserving along with Young Justice imo) or just erase them too.

Wasn't the Brave and the Bold universe technically already erased in-show due to Batmite's meddling during the final episode?

 

[The Crimson Chin]

So turns out the Young Justice/Teen Titans Go crossover is actually happening.

I'm excited, it sounds fun! It's no Season 3 but hey more Young Justice, no matter how small, is good for me!

 

[Srebak]

I didn't know where else to post this, so:

With Halloween being among the next big holidays on the schedule, I'm trying to get a jump start on the Halloween mood.

However, when i finally got to the 2012 Halloween special: Dear Dracula, my mind kept reminding me of a scene from an episode of "Spectacular Spider-Man", the Halloween episode. My mind sort of perverted that very scene and it made me uncomfortable, so i tried to balance it out by watching the Halloween episode of Young Justice, seeing as both were made by Greg Weisman (truth be told, the only Greg Weisman show whose Halloween special hasn't bothered me in some way is Gargoyles). But now, unfortunately, my mind is set on Young Justice, but not the Halloween episode. No, my mind has to focus on the antics of Superboy in at least three episodes (The Amazo episode, "Targets" and "Alpha Male"). Superboy is supposed to be a very serious character, so this doesn't mix well with me. Part of my wants to believe that because Superboy was created to be nothing but a weapon, he naturally wouldn't know anything other than fighting, since CADMUS likely didn't want him to be distracted by things like human emotion or humor of any kind. That way, his behavior is basically more CADMUS' fault than his, it's just the way he was made.

 

[Magmaster12]

So turns out the Young Justice/Teen Titans Go crossover is actually happening.

I'm excited, it sounds fun! It's no Season 3 but hey more Young Justice, no matter how small, is good for me!

No, just no.

 

[Dragonpiece]

Wonder if is Go animation style or YJ animation style, also, wonder how this will even occur.

 

[The Crimson Chin]

Wonder if is Go animation style or YJ animation style, also, wonder how this will even occur.

Probably Go animation style since their animation team is intact while everyone working on YJ split up. Simpler that way.

I'm guessing it'll be the YJ team we know and love being transported to the TTG universe by Raven, Cyborg or some random villain/scientist in TTG. lol maybe it'll end up in Greg's timeline. Depending on how much Greg is involved, would be cool if we got some post-Season 2 hints. Like a throwaway line talking about what they were just doing before suddenly appearing in the TTG world.

 

[reflection01]

Kind of a slap in the face to YJ. Spiking the ball so to speak.

 

[brickrrb2]

Talk about salt in a wound that never closed.
YJ in TTGo style? Cheap

 

[The Crimson Chin]

Kind of a slap in the face to YJ. Spiking the ball so to speak.

I can understand that feeling. CN cancels YJ, but allows a crossover with TTG. Kinda jerkish.

At the same time, Greg Weisman has mentioned the possibility of such a crossover before and pushed for and supported it judging by his comments (how involved he was in the actual episode, we don't know though). So I'm still happy that at least one of his post-YJ ideas got greenlit considering WB/CN/DC have rejected a bunch of his previous pitches (Earth-16 comic, DC Nation shorts, etc).

 

[firefoxprime]

I can understand that feeling. CN cancels YJ, but allows a crossover with TTG. Kinda jerkish.

At the same time, Greg Weisman has mentioned the possibility of such a crossover before and pushed for and supported it judging by his comments (how involved he was in the actual episode, we don't know though). So I'm still happy that at least one of his post-YJ ideas got greenlit considering WB/CN/DC have rejected a bunch of his previous pitches (Earth-16 comic, DC Nation shorts, etc).

That burned my stomach for a bit....
DC: Source material, CN: Broadcast rights, WB: Parent company(yadda blah time warnerl, and absolutely ZERO corporate synergy. While Marvel/Disney has too much, these guys are just clownin around.

 

[The Crimson Chin]

That burned my stomach for a bit....
DC: Source material, CN: Broadcast rights, WB: Parent company(yadda blah time warnerl, and absolutely ZERO corporate synergy. While Marvel/Disney has too much, these guys are just clownin around.

I just stated it like that because I assumed his pitches went to different people. DC Nation pitches to CN, comic book tie-in pitches to DC, etc.

lol yeah. Funny how CW is doing more to make a DC universe than WB's movie division. Meanwhile Marvel has movies, tv and soon netflix all planned and connected.

 

[KYO'NYUU IMOUTO]

Probably Go animation style since their animation team is intact while everyone working on YJ split up. Simpler that way.

I'm guessing it'll be the YJ team we know and love being transported to the TTG universe by Raven, Cyborg or some random villain/scientist in TTG. lol maybe it'll end up in Greg's timeline. Depending on how much Greg is involved, would be cool if we got some post-Season 2 hints. Like a throwaway line talking about what they were just doing before suddenly appearing in the TTG world.

The Young Justice staff need not be involved to mimic their designs. The character models still exist, the episode directors for Teen Titans Go! need only include them in the materials for the episode and ship them to the animation studio.

 

[W.C.Reaf]

Kind of a slap in the face to YJ. Spiking the ball so to speak.

Not seeing now this is a slap to the face. Well unless you're part of the fanbase that mistakenly believes TTG was the reason it got cancelled instead of the actual reasons it got cancelled. Not sure what "Spiking the ball" is referencing here, but I'm not a sports guy and anything I can think of doesn't apply here, so it probably went over my head.

The TTG people are clearly fans of YJ, there's has been numerous references to it in the background. It's a celebration of the show and how it's surviving in the public conciousness despite not being on the air anymore. Having the show live on after it's gone is the best way to secure it's legacy, not many shows get this opportunity. Keep fighting for season 3 and stop fighting against things that'll keep the show alive and will surely help the fight for new YJ material.