WBD Acquisition Thread

If only I could retract what I said because a friend of mine on Discord said to take it with a grain of salt.

Apparently with or without merger or layoffs, the channels would shut down in the States anyway

Even then, the channels of the former Discovery wing overlap certain reruns of original productions from each other's channels, so it's not surprising to see them close.
 
Judge Denies Preliminary Injunction In Consumer Lawsuit Seeking To Block Paramount-Warner Bros. Discovery Merger

Looks like the state AGs are going to lose this trial and PSKY will officially close their merger on time.
this is that one dumb consumer lawsuit that looked like it was written by a 15 year old, not the main state AG one that actually spent the time putting together evidence of their claims
 
Judge Denies Preliminary Injunction In Consumer Lawsuit Seeking To Block Paramount-Warner Bros. Discovery Merger

Looks like the state AGs are going to lose this trial and PSKY will officially close their merger on time.
This lawsuit is separate and sounds like the argument was about Paramount+ price rising, which isn't a very good argument, but since they are Paramount+ subscribers, they don't really have anything else to argue. I've read the State AGs lawsuit and it's got much stronger arguments relating to the Pay TV Channel and Movie Studio monopolies causes widespread higher prices and reduction of jobs.
 
this is that one dumb consumer lawsuit that looked like it was written by a 15 year old, not the main state AG one that actually spent the time putting together evidence of their claims
As for reason, consumers should hire lawyers to sue Paramount, so never file the lawsuit without lawyers.

It is very hard for consumers to win the antitrust cases because most of their cases are very weak or have no lawyers.
 
It looks like Luke Bouma want to spread the fear about what happened if merger failed and WBD continue to remain as separate corporation.

I do believe that WBD would opt to split the linear networks, along with unload the massive debt to keep HBO and WBD studio safer like they planned to do before talk about merger with PSKY.

I wouldn't object if PSKY and WBD agrees to combine Paramount+ and HBO Max, so it would be more desirable than combine two studios and linear networks. It would be like Hulu when it was new in 2000s.
Considering the networks still generate a serious cash flow and WB's theatrical slate isn't always profitable annually, they're going to be a key driver in helping Zaslav finish HBO Max's international expansion and whittling away the debt load.

A split also makes both S&S & GN vulnerable so if they want to push the sales process back down the road, it might be avoidable.
The failure of the merger would be more costly on Paramount than on WBD. I mean, WBD earns a USD 7 billion breakup fee from Paramount, and there's also the ticking fee on Paramount as well.
That $7B check combined with continuing debt reductions will make a considerable dent into WarnerDiscovery's debt.

Even then, the channels of the former Discovery wing overlap certain reruns of original productions from each other's channels, so it's not surprising to see them close.
If the goal is to milk as much linear revenue as possible to finish HBO Max's international rollout, they'll need as many channels operating as they can to bring in the money.

They could also easily integrate Discovery+ into HBO Max once most of the expansion is done in order to cut down streaming operation costs.

@Moe This is what I'm talking about because not every year will turn out like the 2025 slate for WB:

"Mike and Pam kick more cans: A fun parlor game on the Warner Bros. lot: Which movies will actually come out on the dates that studio heads Mike De Luca and Pam Abdy have scheduled them? Much was made yesterday of yet another delay for The Batman: Part II, this time to February 2028.

But the more interesting punt is J.J. Abrams’s The Great Beyond, starring Glen Powell and Jenna Ortega, which was pushed from November to October 2027 after Abrams tested the movie in Orange County and the audience definitely had some notes. It joins recent Mike and Pam delays including The Bride! (from ’25 to early ’26, where it bombed), The Cat in the Hat (from March to November), and Jonah Hill’s Cut Off (from this month to… “unscheduled”). Legendary has also delayed Ryan Reynolds’s Animal Friends four separate times, most recently to January ’27 via Warners.

More…: People in town tend to joke about these delays as De Luca and Abdy problems due to creative issues. Not wrong. But the Warner Discovery finance team also has a heavy hand in the release calendar. C.F.O. Gunnar Wiedenfels hates frontloading the money to release and market films when he doesn’t absolutely have to, so Warners ends up pushing stuff around more often than other studios, and going more than four months—from One Battle After Another last September to Wuthering Heights in February—without a single release.

That Gunnar-inflicted barren period could come back to haunt the WarnerMount deal now that prospective owner David Ellison has promised a steady conveyor belt of 30 movies a year from the combined studios. As the states’ lawsuit points out, Warner Discovery C.E.O. David Zaslav once promised 20 theatrical releases in 2024 yet ended up releasing only nine films that year. The 2023 strike crippled output, but the total was only 11 releases in 2025, so what’s to prevent a judge from looking at that recent precedent and throwing the broken promise back in Ellison’s face?"


WB could sometimes have unforeseen theatrical downturns and that's offset by linear networks and in the future, streaming as there's no other major source of revenue streams that can fulfill that role.

If Zaslav & Widenfels don't want uncertainty for the company like the split scenario, the path forward is to keep chipping away at the debt load while HBO Max's international expansion continues.

This would ultimately boost WarnerDiscovery's overall valuation when Zaslav & Malone inevitably do a sales process on their own accords in the future.
 
The judge will make a decision on pausing the merger next week.

This makes me nervous because I’m worried that Araceli Martínez-Olguín will fail at finding the arguments that are in the states' favor, basically because there are people out there who think the states' case is weak.

By the way, Araceli became the new judge for the trial, who I heard is favored by the states that are suing.
 
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This makes me nervous because I’m worried that Araceli Martínez-Olguín will fail at finding the arguments that are in the states' favor, basically because there are people out there who think the states' case is weak.
Say state case is weak is coming from Paramount, MAGA fans and diehard Paramount fans.

State cases fit with antitrust laws that concern the competitors, especially Paramount+ and HBO Max, HBO and Showtime, linear networks and bunch of films.

but if Ellison manage to win the merger, the massive debt will shut him out and doom the both of studios, so it can be worse, depends on economic condition like AI bubble pops and geopolitical would hurt Ellison. It is extremely expensive merger with debt that is much, much, much bigger than Disney when they bought 20th Century with closed in 2019.

Whoa, Ellison tried to label NEON, Lionsgate and A24 as major competitors but those companies are small or mini-major and don't count. MGM hasn't been a big studio since 1970s. Paramount's real competitors are WBD, Disney, Universal and Sony.

Hey Ellison, have fun with massive debt and it won't help with streaming growth to match with Netflix. It would be easier if you just merge Paramount+ and HBO Max without buying WBD, so it means less liability for both studios.
 
Say state case is weak is coming from Paramount, MAGA fans and diehard Paramount fans.

State cases fit with antitrust laws that concern the competitors, especially Paramount+ and HBO Max, HBO and Showtime, linear networks and bunch of films.

but if Ellison manage to win the merger, the massive debt will shut him out and doom the both of studios, so it can be worse, depends on economic condition like AI bubble pops and geopolitical would hurt Ellison. It is extremely expensive merger with debt that is much, much, much bigger than Disney when they bought 20th Century with closed in 2019.

Whoa, Ellison tried to label NEON, Lionsgate and A24 as major competitors but those companies are small or mini-major and don't count. MGM hasn't been a big studio since 1970s. Paramount's real competitors are WBD, Disney, Universal and Sony.

Hey Ellison, have fun with massive debt and it won't help with streaming growth to match with Netflix. It would be easier if you just merge Paramount+ and HBO Max without buying WBD, so it means less liability for both studios.
Makes sense for a joint venture like what WB and Universal are currently distributing with home entertainment releases until 2030 (Studio Distribution Services).
 
There is my honest opinion, I do think that CNN needs to have some changes to improve the rating by add more diverse news coverage and have multiple opinions.

I don't like about what Ellison did with CBS, so he went too far.
 
You want the court to do the restraining order, this will stop SkyDance from trying close the deal and starting the process of combining. That is an old tactic to do , it's to intertwine and make it hard to break apart. That's the main thing. Then the harder thing is if there's a decision on the preliminary injunction,, which you also want. As I said before, what you want is time, drag it out. David Ellison , in true hubris ego with out any awareness ,decided to make such an early shot clock. There was no reason to make the if we don't get this done deal, we'll pay, this year. Even his last deal ( that also shouldn't have been allowed ) still took a year, and he had to wait for a president switch and for the old owners to do a bribe. He truly though the had a blank pass, because he mostly does, but he forgot there would be people who hate it?

Their lawyer also is mad that apparently the court and the states suing are using the 2023 updated laws on anti-trust (fun fact: this one was used for helping to stop the very evil Albertsons-Kroger merger) and wants the older version used instead. Buddy forgot how laws work. It'd be you're speeding and driving 70 MPH in 2026, a new law was passed in 2023 that says the speed limit is now 55 MPH, but you argue that the old speed limit was 70 MPH, and should follow that rule. He argued a court never used it before, which is both wrong and also a weird thing to say. Would be funny if bro was a double agent lawyer and just wants sweet Ellison money.

The rule from 2023 says that the concentration threshold was lowered amongst other things. I said before that 2021-2025 had the best anti-trust measures going on in decades.

I want to point out that anything saying that Warner Bros. would be in bad shape if this deal doesn't go through are wrong and/or are CordCuttersnews which like if wrong was a whole website. If the deal fails they get money. Which eases when the stock (which jumped since the start of this in September) goes down a little. They'll go back to plan A and break up the company. (Skydance on the other hand if it fails, oh no! Anyway)


Still play like you're down 7-2 but be optimistic ,even in the bottom of the 8th.
 
You want the court to do the restraining order, this will stop SkyDance from trying close the deal and starting the process of combining. That is an old tactic to do , it's to intertwine and make it hard to break apart. That's the main thing. Then the harder thing is if there's a decision on the preliminary injunction,, which you also want. As I said before, what you want is time, drag it out. David Ellison , in true hubris ego with out any awareness ,decided to make such an early shot clock. There was no reason to make the if we don't get this done deal, we'll pay, this year. Even his last deal ( that also shouldn't have been allowed ) still took a year, and he had to wait for a president switch and for the old owners to do a bribe. He truly though the had a blank pass, because he mostly does, but he forgot there would be people who hate it?

Their lawyer also is mad that apparently the court and the states suing are using the 2023 updated laws on anti-trust (fun fact: this one was used for helping to stop the very evil Albertsons-Kroger merger) and wants the older version used instead. Buddy forgot how laws work. It'd be you're speeding and driving 70 MPH in 2026, a new law was passed in 2023 that says the speed limit is now 55 MPH, but you argue that the old speed limit was 70 MPH, and should follow that rule. He argued a court never used it before, which is both wrong and also a weird thing to say. Would be funny if bro was a double agent lawyer and just wants sweet Ellison money.

The rule from 2023 says that the concentration threshold was lowered amongst other things. I said before that 2021-2025 had the best anti-trust measures going on in decades.

I want to point out that anything saying that Warner Bros. would be in bad shape if this deal doesn't go through are wrong and/or are CordCuttersnews which like if wrong was a whole website. If the deal fails they get money. Which eases when the stock (which jumped since the start of this in September) goes down a little. They'll go back to plan A and break up the company. (Skydance on the other hand if it fails, oh no! Anyway)


Still play like you're down 7-2 but be optimistic ,even in the bottom of the 8th.
That why I criticized Luke Bouma over his poor writing on article and it looks like he is just share the weird opinion.
 
but if Ellison manage to win the merger, the massive debt will shut him out and doom the both of studios, so it can be worse, depends on economic condition like AI bubble pops and geopolitical would hurt Ellison.

Hey Ellison, have fun with massive debt and it won't help with streaming growth to match with Netflix. It would be easier if you just merge Paramount+ and HBO Max without buying WBD, so it means less liability for both studios.
It doesn't really help the Ellisons that Oracle's continuing to take on more loans to fund their AI & data center buildout investments with OpenAI expected to cough out about $319B in unrealized future revenue for them.

But in addition to that, SkyShowtime being unprofitable and falls apart does show not all joint-ventures hit their goals.

Comcast will tout Peacock's profitability and Hayu's existence while brushing any mention of SkyShowtime to the way side.

You want the court to do the restraining order, this will stop SkyDance from trying close the deal and starting the process of combining. That is an old tactic to do , it's to intertwine and make it hard to break apart. That's the main thing. Then the harder thing is if there's a decision on the preliminary injunction,, which you also want. As I said before, what you want is time, drag it out. David Ellison , in true hubris ego with out any awareness ,decided to make such an early shot clock. There was no reason to make the if we don't get this done deal, we'll pay, this year. Even his last deal ( that also shouldn't have been allowed ) still took a year, and he had to wait for a president switch and for the old owners to do a bribe. He truly though the had a blank pass, because he mostly does, but he forgot there would be people who hate it?

I want to point out that anything saying that Warner Bros. would be in bad shape if this deal doesn't go through are wrong and/or are CordCuttersnews which like if wrong was a whole website. If the deal fails they get money. Which eases when the stock (which jumped since the start of this in September) goes down a little. They'll go back to plan A and break up the company.
Honestly, with both the continued debt reductions and the $7B check, I wouldn't even rule out a possibility of WarnerDiscovery continuing as it is by folding Discovery+ into HBO Max to bring down the streaming operation costs and the debt load being whittled down further with no split at all.

There would be enough traction to finish HBO Max's international expansion and once that's mostly done, Zaslav & Malone can begin another sale process of the entirety of WarnerDiscovery on their own accords down the road.

That why I criticized Luke Bouma over his poor writing on article and it looks like he is just share the weird opinion.
These sites spin up controversy in favor of Skydance in order to be bought off by Ellison to get favorable PR coverage or generate additional revenue by getting more clicks on their articles.

It doesn't have to be notable or less notable ones, if these news websites need the money badly, they'll stir things up in order to get that cash.

Just have to look at Puck's biased coverage of the Ellisons in both the Redstone sales process and the WarnerDiscovery pursuit as a clear example, lol.
 
Maybe @RegularCapital knows better on the subject about transactions approved under extraordinary circumstances during summer recess
 

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