Cartoon Network International News Thread 26.0

[RandomMe]

CN LA seems to be just as autopilot as the US (I mean they don't even mention time slots anymore) with a mediocre branding too

The excitement is in the weird programming. Not so much, but at least it's limited

 

[themidnightlore]

Actually, Boing Spain mogs on CN WE, as I see it. (And Boing Italy mogs CN Italy, but that's too easy...)

 

[Zzman]

why is CN Africa left out the conversation though? it's a very good feed and I don't see people talk about it nearly as enough you can call it bias because I'm also African but still


I mean for example they're the ones that start the whole CN classics roll out on the first place even if they don't air it anymore

 

[RandomMe]

why is CN Africa left out the conversation though? it's a very good feed and I don't see people talk about it nearly as enough you can call it bias because I'm also African but still


I mean for example they're the ones that start the whole CN classics roll out on the first place even if they don't air it anymore

Oh, CN Africa, I pine for you

Yeah, it's still better than the feeds up here in Europe. I get it that no feed is perfect and perfection is not a fully-acceptable thing in anything in life, but they do a great job.

 

[BlooMac]

Pastel isn't that bad, EMEA could have always reworked it and used more assets. We seem to be forgetting that CN US's use of Dimensional was almost as bland. EMEA isn't doing much better with sticking to a 10-year old look. They could have at least made a "Dimensional 2.0", but instead, they chose to use the same old assets and music from 2016.

As for the EMEA feeds (aside from CN Africa), there isn't much variety with the type of shows. Even if we exclude Adult Swim, CN US has a better mix of classic and contemporary, there's also action shows like Iyanu and Ben 10. Yeah, sure, CN WE has that CN Classics block that's still stuck in its season 1 loop for who knows how long...

I know they can't have Adult Swim like CN US, but they could at least air some lighter shows like My Adventures with Superman and Dragon Ball Daima. Heck, I'm sure things like Iyanu and Total Drama Island '23 are/were obtainable.

 

[RegularMan]

WE can’t have TDI because the show was exclusive to Teletoon+ in France and K2 in Italy and never aired in Germany.

 

[Zzman]

i think its a tough time for CN in General on both regions however what they can benefit from is a completely new branding that is also used globally meanwhile CN US should be more independent form emea and emea except maybe Africa can improve on the schedule (yes even WE could use some improvements) add more shows other than comedies and mediocre EU shows and furthermore all of emea will get rid of dimensional once and for all

 

[RandomMe]

Yeah, Cartoon Network currently has a hopeless aura around the world, and it doesn't have a unified coordination too

 

[E-Scope]

WE can’t have TDI because the show was exclusive to Teletoon+ in France and K2 in Italy and never aired in Germany.

And don't forget Spain as well since aside from the first season, it only aired in Catalan and English on Super3 and also Portugal (since it aired on RTP2 and the now-defunct Biggs channel although the fifth season did air on Cartoon Network there) too. That said, the only Western European countries to air TDI on CN are the Netherlands, the Flanders region of Belgium, Portugal, Greece (both through CN EMEA in English) and Scandinavia.

 

[Zzman]

Yeah, Cartoon Network currently has a hopeless aura around the world, and it doesn't have a unified coordination too

in an Ideal World if they had more money they could do that but welcome to reality

and i have to say as much as people talk about how pastel is mediocre redraw your world was only slightly better I think people overhyped it too much at the time it's okay but it's no CN city or Powerhouse i think it can be epilepsy causing at times too

 

[Daffyrocks]

The truth is that no Cartoon Network channel is "perfect" anymore. Not even the US. Every feed has many flaws, some more evident than others.

At this point, I can say about CEE that it is slowly improving, but has A LOT to catch on to its WE counterpart. And yes, part of the reason is their stubborness to get that CN Classics block already.... Even if they would get stuck with the same first seasons for all the shows, it would still be sufficient for them to finally get a big hold of themselves.

CN WE also isn't as great in the variety as it used to two years ago, the launch of HBO Max in all the catered markets made the schedule to look as repetitive as CEE. Not as bad as them, but still, it's getting there. The only goof thing at the moment is some more extra shows, plus (obviously) their night schedule. At least they have Looney Tunes Cartoons, which our feed can really air regularly if they saw more potential in the show.... Both feeds also have those Looney Tunes Show clip fillers, why is taking them so long to put the show itself on the line-up anyway? (cause I suppose that would be the logical reason why they made those fillers in the first place).

And still, I've said that already a thousand times, I know, but I will put it in another light: Tom and Jerry and Scooby-Doo are big franchises and well-known IPs and for years they have "formed" while associated with the Cartoon Network name. They are considered "CN classics" by everyone who remembers them, not as Cartoonito programs. Yes, they can have Cartoonito be a family channel if they want, I got over that. But, what I am trying to say is, given the mediocrity of the EMEA teams of CN, having those two franchises among those "many other" cartoons would give the variety a big boost. Even if they don't treat The Tom and Jerry Show well and give it reduced airtime, it still would help to have more characters for all ages. Same for Scooby, they have the Guess Who show which they haven't touched on in like three years from now. At least that show does have a more "big kids" vibe and would complement with Cartoonito airing Be Cool (if they really are that stubborn).

I am not comenting much about the other feeds, I know UK really needs to do something about the timeslots awareness, plus the African channel is from a very underrated part of the world which is why not many can talk much about it. The different tastes of Africa clearly hit there with its unique schedule (also, since when did they stop having CN Classics? I am surprised myself they don't air it anymore; at least they are now on par with us on that...)

Oh and I am not even going on bragging about them still being too afraid to show stuff like the 2023 Total Drama Island. Regular Show is in the same mature levels and they are now giving that decent treatment even with the censors. I would take butchered Total Drama Island reboot any day in terms of censorship than not having it at all.

 

[Zzman]

The truth is that no Cartoon Network channel is "perfect" anymore. Not even the US. Every feed has many flaws, some more evident than others.

At this point, I can say about CEE that it is slowly improving, but has A LOT to catch on to its WE counterpart. And yes, part of the reason is their stubborness to get that CN Classics block already.... Even if they would get stuck with the same first seasons for all the shows, it would still be sufficient for them to finally get a big hold of themselves.

CN WE also isn't as great in the variety as it used to two years ago, the launch of HBO Max in all the catered markets made the schedule to look as repetitive as CEE. Not as bad as them, but still, it's getting there. The only goof thing at the moment is some more extra shows, plus (obviously) their night schedule. At least they have Looney Tunes Cartoons, which our feed can really air regularly if they saw more potential in the show.... Both feeds also have those Looney Tunes Show clip fillers, why is taking them so long to put the show itself on the line-up anyway? (cause I suppose that would be the logical reason why they made those fillers in the first place).

And still, I've said that already a thousand times, I know, but I will put it in another light: Tom and Jerry and Scooby-Doo are big franchises and well-known IPs and for years they have "formed" while associated with the Cartoon Network name. They are considered "CN classics" by everyone who remembers them, not as Cartoonito programs. Yes, they can have Cartoonito be a family channel if they want, I got over that. But, what I am trying to say is, given the mediocrity of the EMEA teams of CN, having those two franchises among those "many other" cartoons would give the variety a big boost. Even if they don't treat The Tom and Jerry Show well and give it reduced airtime, it still would help to have more characters for all ages. Same for Scooby, they have the Guess Who show which they haven't touched on in like three years from now. At least that show does have a more "big kids" vibe and would complement with Cartoonito airing Be Cool (if they really are that stubborn).

I am not comenting much about the other feeds, I know UK really needs to do something about the timeslots awareness, plus the African channel is from a very underrated part of the world which is why not many can talk much about it. The different tastes of Africa clearly hit there with its unique schedule (also, since when did they stop having CN Classics? I am surprised myself they don't air it anymore; at least they are now on par with us on that...)

Oh and I am not even going on bragging about them still being too afraid to show stuff like the 2023 Total Drama Island. Regular Show is in the same mature levels and they are now giving that decent treatment even with the censors. I would take butchered Total Drama Island reboot any day in terms of censorship than not having it at all.

first to answer your question about CN Africa I think they stopped airing the classics block at the start of this month I believe it's a temporary measured though and the schedule still miles better than CEE and even a bit better than WE at times

second I even argued that no CN feed has ever been 100% perfect even back during their "Prime" but the thing is they dont have to completely neglect some feeds if anything they should try more if they want to attract more viewers

 

[Walker]

I thought CN Turkey would ban this episode (Fuzzy Dice), but they aired it with censorship.

 

[RandomMe]

I thought CN Turkey would ban this episode (Fuzzy Dice), but they aired it with censorship.

EMEA-style censorship, but softer.

 

[JulianRO]

Looks like Digi TV Czechia had CN CEE back in late 2010:


Didn't Czechia have the Pan-Euro feed back then?

 

[E-Scope]

Looks like Digi TV Czechia had CN CEE back in late 2010:


Didn't Czechia have the Pan-Euro feed back then?

And until 2017, they only have the English, Hungarian and Romanian audio tracks as Czech wasn't launched yet.

 

[RandomMe]

Slovakia only switched to CEE between 2010 and 2013

 

[alfa_alfa]

Looks like Digi TV Czechia had CN CEE back in late 2010:

Didn't Czechia have the Pan-Euro feed back then?

Digi TV used to save bandwidth, so the Czech, Slovak, Serbian and Croatian subscribers got indeed Cartoon Network CEE and TCM with hardcoded Romanian subtitles.

If I am not mistaken, the Serbian and Croatian subscribers got Disney Channel Romania as well, alongside Disney XD EMEA.

Even Animal Planet Romania didn't arrive on the platform until July 2011, only AP Europe was shown then.

 

[RegularCapital]

Posted this on the International Nickelodeon Thread but it also relates to what's discussed here:

Paramount Skydance Corp. is reportedly prepared to sell some of its children's television assets to secure European Union regulatory approval for its $110 billion takeover of Warner Bros. Discovery Inc.

The European Commission is scrutinising the merger due to the significant overlap between Paramount's Nickelodeon and Warner Bros. Discovery's Cartoon Network. A combined market share exceeding 40% in any European country could trigger antitrust interventions.

Paramount Open to Selling Kids Channels to Quell EU Fears Over $110 Billion Warner Deal

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[themidnightlore]

Posted this on the International Nickelodeon Thread but it also relates to what's discussed here:

...And this is how K2 and Frisbee can be saved and get better, right? (Can't they sell the rest of the WBD FTA Italian offer too? And the British ones? And TVN?)
Inb4 they sell Boing to Mediaset (no idea how, they can't have extra LCNs in Italy. Probably not even in Spain too.)