"Coraline" Talkback (Spoilers)

Looks like this weekend's box office take will be about $15 million...barely a million less than last weekend. :eek: Word-of-mouth must be very good for the film's financial take to be virtually unchanged a week later. :D
 
Did anyone read this in Gaiman's blog:

A couple of days ago the front page at CBC (Canadian Broadcasting) website announced that it had interviews and reviews about Tim Burton's Coraline. Which I saw moments before I saw a piece on the Chicago Tribune print edition front page announcing its reviews of Tim Burton's Coraline. And my hackles started rising.

The hackles were, I should point out, not on my behalf, but for Henry Selick, who directed The Nightmare Before Christmas: he worked on the story with the screenwriter, Caroline Thompson (another person whose contribution tends to be forgotten), and the songwriter, Danny Elfman, to turn Tim's character sketches and poem into a film script, then he spent years in a warehouse in San Francisco overseeing people moving dolls around a frame at a time, with Tim off making fine movies; and, then, a couple of weeks before the film came out, the title was changed to Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas. Which tends to mean that people assume that Tim made the film and if they even notice Henry was involved as director, they assume it was in some strange kind of junior role. (Nope, he was the director. He grew Tim's poem and character sketches into a movie. Tim produced it.)

It was irritating when people started asking me why the advertising said "From the director of The Nightmare Before Christmas", and wasn't it some kind of a sneaky attempt to make people think that it was by Tim Burton?, and I would sigh, and say no, it was a sneaky attempt to make people think it was directed by the person who directed The Nightmare Before Christmas. (And given that people were saying this about trailers that made a point of saying Henry's name, I had little patience with it.)

So I was already not impressed with the CBC website or the Chicago Tribune, and then someone sent me a link to an online newspaper in which the reviewer's first paragraph explained Tim Burton's career and then went on to explain, in an extremely dim sort of way, why Coraline was a Tim Burton film, and I twittered about it. And then watched the delighted twitterverse pile onto the poor gentleman in the comments page with surprise, realising that this power must only be used for good.

(There are a lot more people reading this blog than are following me on Twitter at http://twitter.com/neilhimself. But still, deploying 22,000 people at once is an amazing thing.) (Not as good as Stephen Fry, of course. For he is the awesome god-emperor of Twitter. Also he sent me a direct message to say how much he liked Coraline.)

Some people thought I was grumpy about me not getting credit for Coraline. I'm not grumpy -- and believe me, I am getting more credit than authors of original books ever usually get. I was grumpy on Henry's behalf.

Which is mostly a preamble to give context to Randy Milholland's lovely cartoon at http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp02092009.shtml
 
Wow... this is getting out of hand when official networks are getting directors wrong. I'd like to see this CBC review.
 
Did anyone read this in Gaiman's blog:

Yeah, saw it a few days ago when Neil linked to it on his Twitter account.

I don't understand how people can be so stupid.
 
I don't understand how people can be so stupid.

You'd be surprised. When I was walking out of the theater there was a lot of people talking about Tim Burton, even though he had nothing to do with the movie.
 
I just saw this film as a double feature with Friday the 13th.

And I have to tell you that this is definitely the best animated film I've ever seen. This is Selick's best film since The Nightmare Before Christmas.

Everything was just with this film, the animation, the voice acting, everything was spot on and great.
 
Wow... this is getting out of hand when official networks are getting directors wrong. I'd like to see this CBC review.

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2009/02/06/f-coraline-review.html

The review itself acknowledges Henry Selick as the director and makes no mention of Tim Burton. It was only last week's headline (obviously not written by the same person) that claimed Burton was involved with the film.
 
Originally Posted by Syaoran Li
I don't understand how people can be so stupid.
Old Guy said:
You'd be surprised. When I was walking out of the theater there was a lot of people talking about Tim Burton, even though he had nothing to do with the movie.

Word. There are still plenty of people who think every CG animated film is made by Pixar. All it takes is for one studio or filmmaker to do something outstanding with the genre and most people come to automatically associate them with it, even when they had nothing to do with it.
 
I just saw this film as a double feature with Friday the 13th.

And I have to tell you that this is definitely the best animated film I've ever seen. This is Selick's best film since The Nightmare Before Christmas.

Everything was just with this film, the animation, the voice acting, everything was spot on and great.


They were showing that film alongside Friday the Thirteenth?:eek:
I know Coraline is a little scary, but it is still a kids movie. Friday the Thirteenth is R. Wow!
 
It wasn't a double feature for real, it was my own. I had one ticket for both films.
 
I just saw it in 3-D, and it was awesome! Just the right mix of creepy and sweet.
I thought the designs were excellent (I even prefer Coraline to Nightmare Before Christmas, just for those designs).
 
It takes alot to get me to brave a theater full of kids for an animation. The hand made details along with the 3D added to a story line that already attracted me. The $10 for a ticket has me thinking I'm not going to the other 3D features coming soon. If no one has said yet, keep your glasses on and stay to the end of the credits rather than leave with the kids. It's worthwhile, but I'm not going to say why. I figured it out, maybe you can too. I really feel the very young kids should not have been there. A few had to leave when the scary tension was reaching climax. I loved the darkness in this movie but it could give little kids nightmares.
 
Good news, folks. Yesterday, President's Day, Coraline was the second highest grossing movie with $4.3 million. It has grossed $39.3 million so far.
 
That's great news. Both films (Friday the 13th and Coraline) are still going great at the box office and rightfully so.
 
Saw it yesterday. I wouldn't say it's "too creepy" for kids at all. Heck, any kid who's read any half-decent fantasy novel should be able to take this no problem. It's no scarier than an average Harry Potter movie. If anything, Coraline is "old school" in mentality. People forget that fairy tales were originally MEANT to scare little kids who LOVED to be creeped out. It's a statement on our current culture that we've diluted these tales over the years to make kid's films that are bland and harmless and "warm". It's also a statement on our perception of animation that nobody comments on the "scary" elements of a live-action fantasy film like Harry Potter, but any reviews you read of Coraline are always accompanied by a disclaimer about how "dark" it is. Oh, how far our perceptions of animation have come...:shrug:
 
Saw it yesterday. I wouldn't say it's "too creepy" for kids at all. Heck, any kid who's read any half-decent fantasy novel should be able to take this no problem. It's no scarier than an average Harry Potter movie. If anything, Coraline is "old school" in mentality. People forget that fairy tales were originally MEANT to scare little kids who LOVED to be creeped out. It's a statement on our current culture that we've diluted these tales over the years to make kid's films that are bland and harmless and "warm". It's also a statement on our perception of animation that nobody comments on the "scary" elements of a live-action fantasy film like Harry Potter, but any reviews you read of Coraline are always accompanied by a disclaimer about how "dark" it is. Oh, how far our perceptions of animation have come...:shrug:
I agree with you in principle, but... dude, seriously, this movie is really creepy. And morbid. I would take my kids to see Monster House, but probably not this.
 
I agree with you in principle, but... dude, seriously, this movie is really creepy. And morbid. I would take my kids to see Monster House, but probably not this.

It depends on the age. I would peg it as 8 and up. Heck, if the kid has seen a Harry Potter movie, he/she can watch this. I see 4-5 year olds having a grand fun time with Harry Potter, even in the "scary" sequences. There's nothing here that's any creepier than Ralph Fiennes minus a nose.
 
I agree with you in principle, but... dude, seriously, this movie is really creepy. And morbid. I would take my kids to see Monster House, but probably not this.
Agreed. The final 30 minutes were seriously creepy.
 
Kids who like being scared can handle it. When I was 8, I would have loved to see this.

It all depends on the kid. You can't lump them all together and say that none of them should see this movie until a certain age.
 

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