Eisner Plans to Step Down

[tucsoncoyote]

Doing it for the Fans by the Numbers...

What? Hillary isn't working at WB tucson. She's only done movie with them. And besides, Hillary is a hack who will fail now that her movies are bombing or performing poorly and her star starts to dim.

Oh tuscon.....you should become Disney CEO. I'd vote for you. But you gotta promise to give us fans our Disney Afternoon DVD's.

Well still New Line Cinema is WB Wolf, and Hilary's really no hack, but I'm not going to dispute that as this was a Case where Robert Iger (The Future CEO if things Don't change by 2006, of Disney) nixed Hilary.. and in fact I found out that He also has nixed Raven Symone as well. (Only Giving That's SO Raven an 13 additional Episodes plus Shelving any chance of Seeing the Series The Cheetah Girls on ABC, in favor of ... Dare I say it.. Desperate Housewives?)

now as for the Second Matter, Let's just say Wolf, I would give you those Disney Afternoon DVD's.. and even MORE.. in short no more cornercutting, Quality would stay in on all accounts.. and in fact I would try to revitalize shows to their Full Potential..(After all like Magicjac said.. as well as others who have stated it.. 65 isn't a series... it's a Promotional pure and simple.)

(Also did you or anyone know that 82% of the Gargoyles Fans who did vote to keep oit on the air Did say yes? Or maybe the 80% of the Even Stevens Fans as well (Check out www.savemyshow.com and even Raven has a 58% approval Rating and KP a 59%... so would these shows be kept and Expanded upon..

definitely Wolf..

and shows like Teamo Supremo Who got a 61% Disapproval Rating wouldn't even be considered beyond a few episodes once the levels fell below a 51 % disapproval Rating.. (Pretty logical don't you think?) After all when you do it by the numbers, you give the fans what they want, and they'll come back for more. pure and simple. After all that's what Walt Did, and he didn't have problems unitl will into the mid 1980's... (Long after he died.)

 

[magicjac]

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Ah Finally some common sense! but I want to go on and state something rather interesting here... and this might make people sit up and take notice..

Remember what I said about "Who Wants to be a CEO of Disney?"

Well What if I were CEO of Disney...? (Surprise surprise!)

well I can tell you one thing here Magicjac. Rule one for the fans would be this..bye bye 65... first off... Second... if you wanted more episodes of an older show, (Say Gummi Bears for Example) guess what? You might get it.. and third? Ideas Going stale? Not very likely! after all there are a lot of Creative and Imaginative people out there who would could createe new ideas and in fact show what the "older" Disney train of thought was like.. No Idea would be too silly (Provided it didn't violate Family Quality Standards)...

DVD's of Older shows? Boxed Sets! How's that for a Promise.. and for a Reasonable price too.. after all Disney is about Keepig Quality in, (and Branding? Well no more of this "Disney's" Brand on anything.. Like Roy Said.. Disney isn't about Brands... it's about Quality...

That's the TRUE Spirit and Meaning of Disney... Quality Family Enterrainment.. after all if some of the companies out there today learned that Disney was the Granddaddy of Animation.. well then maybe they would realize what quality is.. after all You can't get Happiness with just $$$...you have to earn it one customer at a time..

That's really any potenital CEO of Disney has to say to the fans.. and in fact.. that's what the New CEO (whoever he/she may be) should do.. relate back to the people who mean the most.. The fans and Consumers of Disney. after all if you do that... that's half the battle.

That's really all I have to say on this....

You'd make a great Disney CEO Tusconcoytoe First of all, I'd LOVE to see that simple 65-episode limit rule go bye for good. All it is doing is putting restrictions and limits on all Disney cartoons and really isn't giving the shows a chance to grow and gain a proper fan base. I think the Disney Afternoon classics such as "The Gummi Bears" and "Ducktales" need DVD releases. I mean, duh! These 2 shows are what started Disney animation syndication. And I like your idea about refreshing old classic DA shows with new ideas. That wouls so totally RULE!!! LOL I hope the new Disney CEO does all of this and more!

 

[angelidollinda]

Maybe once Eisner leaves, Disney will be able to get back on its feet again...

 

[tucsoncoyote]

Eisnergate: or How not to fire a friend for 200 Million bucks!

Maybe once Eisner leaves, Disney will be able to get back on its feet again...

Actually angelidollinda, get ready for the real show to start...

and if Eisner does leave... it'll be in possibly handcuffs, along with the rest of the board at Disney..

sounds like a Mickey Mouse Plot? It's not...

or maybe no one has remembered that this Wednesday..(October 20th) is the start of the "Ovitz" Trial in Delaware.... and in fact this is where Michael Eisner is going to be wishing Michael Ovitz HAD committed suicide..

In this Trial Which Has been Christened by some over at "Rebuild The Kingdom.com" (www.rebuildthekingdom.com) as "Eisnergate" Ovitz is going to fess up to all of us in front of everyone and start pointing fingers at the people who gave him a nice little 140 million Dollar Severance package.. just for Leaving Disney..

and that my friends is the Disney board..

Now, I'm no soothsayer, but I've had a pretty good track record this season..2004 has been tucsoncoyote's banner year on prediction making and having those predictions come true..(Attendance at the Parks, Bad Movies, you name it.. except maybe the hurricanes in Florida..)

but I think this line in the article by Reuters says it all...

and this could really set Disney hard up for 2005...

the Prediction?:

"It would be precedent-setting if the plaintiffs were to win," Ovitz's lawyer Mark Epstein said.

and what a win it would be... getting 200 million back for the company while putting the question of integrity, (or lack thereof), not only Michael Eisner in doubt.. but also the rest of the Disney board, including Eisner's Replacement, Robert Iger.. Iger is also a key player here because he's the one who also messed up Hilary Duff's Rewarding career..."

so why is it the Disney Channel is advertising on their 411 spots? Items about Hilary duff? that's a good question.. Maybe they're trying to fool a lot of us.. but sadly.. the Only Fools they are fooling anyone are themselves..

anyone want to add to this?

 

[BigKPFan76]

Actually angelidollinda, get ready for the real show to start...

and if Eisner does leave... it'll be in possibly handcuffs, along with the rest of the board at Disney..

sounds like a Mickey Mouse Plot? It's not...

or maybe no one has remembered that this Wednesday..(October 20th) is the start of the "Ovitz" Trial in Delaware.... and in fact this is where Michael Eisner is going to be wishing Michael Ovitz HAD committed suicide..

In this Trial Which Has been Christened by some over at "Rebuild The Kingdom.com" (www.rebuildthekingdom.com) as "Eisnergate" Ovitz is going to fess up to all of us in front of everyone and start pointing fingers at the people who gave him a nice little 140 million Dollar Severance package.. just for Leaving Disney..

and that my friends is the Disney board..

Now, I'm no soothsayer, but I've had a pretty good track record this season..2004 has been tucsoncoyote's banner year on prediction making and having those predictions come true..(Attendance at the Parks, Bad Movies, you name it.. except maybe the hurricanes in Florida..)

but I think this line in the article by Reuters says it all...

and this could really set Disney hard up for 2005...

the Prediction?:

and what a win it would be... getting 200 million back for the company while putting the question of integrity, (or lack thereof), not only Michael Eisner in doubt.. but also the rest of the Disney board, including Eisner's Replacement, Robert Iger.. Iger is also a key player here because he's the one who also messed up Hilary Duff's Rewarding career..."

so why is it the Disney Channel is advertising on their 411 spots? Items about Hilary duff? that's a good question.. Maybe they're trying to fool a lot of us.. but sadly.. the Only Fools they are fooling anyone are themselves..

anyone want to add to this?

All i can say is......I hope this is REALLY the end of Eisner and his cronies. We can hopefully start with a clean slate and get Disney back to where it needs to be......serving the fans and families, instead of making the quick buck. It's about high time that Eisner answer for his crimes against the Disney company, at least they are to me.

I keep growing more optimistic that we are finally going to be able to accomplish our goals, getting Disney back together, and abolishing the 65 ep policy for popular shows. The future looks bright from here!

 

[JDWeil]

There's more than just Eisner stepping down. The Weinsteins (Those felows that run Miramax) will have to know by March whether Disney intends to renew their contract and they can't wait till Eisner leaves because their contract expires in 2006 just before Eisner's does. The chances are that they will exit Disney but where will they go from here? Link up with another studio? Most of the majors (DreamWorks is an exception) now have art film divisions. Will they form yet another studio? Will Disney try to run Miramax by themselves?

 

[tucsoncoyote]

The Ovitz Trial Day 1... Disney Boardmembers tried to pull a mickey, but .....

Alright folks today's the day when you finally get to hear... "Eisnergate" and already I've got data that says that the Disney Board is just as Guilty as Michael Eisner is..

(and in fact it comes from a witness no less..)

In this article which I present before you, It appears the board of Disney has already pulled "a Mickey" on itself, and has violated it's own bylaws.. That's right, The Honest Upstanding Disney Board members pulled a Big no no..and broke their own rules.. by giving Michael Ovitz a 140 million dollar severance package just for walking out of the House of mouse..

Now how does this bode? Not very well. After all, when you have someone break the rules, they need to be punished.. and in fact this could mean a lot more then just removing one board member at Disney or even 2... more like this will be a Complete and utter removal of the cancer that has been in the Company these Last 7 years.. else this problem will continue to fest...

Your Thoughts on this ?

 

[tucsoncoyote]

There's more than just Eisner stepping down. The Weinsteins (Those felows that run Miramax) will have to know by March whether Disney intends to renew their contract and they can't wait till Eisner leaves because their contract expires in 2006 just before Eisner's does. The chances are that they will exit Disney but where will they go from here? Link up with another studio? Most of the majors (DreamWorks is an exception) now have art film divisions. Will they form yet another studio? Will Disney try to run Miramax by themselves?

Very good Questions there JD and in fact I can tell you that the Contract deal with Eisner, and the Weinsteins are very much over.. in fact you can forget about Miramax returning in September 2005 and in fact the Miramax crowd will be one by February 2005, never to return. As for Disney Running Miramax? Well if Today's statement by a Witness at The Ovitz Trial is a rumor or Rumbling that could turn into real life drama, well it could show that Disney is not in any condition to do takeovers of any sort any more.. and Frankly this could not have happened at a worse time.. This could in fact turn things around so fast.. It would make most shareholder's heads spin...

so stay tooned...

 

[tucsoncoyote]

Children's Place buys out Disney Stores..

Well this was bound to happen....

Children's Place (a Leader in Toy stores in the North Americas) has decided to buy out the Beleaguered and troubled Disney Stores...

They of course are deciding to do so on the first day of the Ovitz Trial and in fact this is really more of picking up yet another fallen piece of Disney in order to save it..

Disney stores until recently have been having Major financial probelms..

so maybe this is a good thing...

your thoughts on this?

 

[tucsoncoyote]

Fines, Lies, and a Trial... what more could the Man who runs Disney really want?

Alright guys.. this is gonna be an active busy week at Disney and it's not for the good...

Frankly this shows how low The Walt Disney Company has sunk and in fact now you're gonna learn... Crime doesn't pay....

first off the Ovitz Trial continued today and in fact perhaps two more people are weating bulliets... one of them being Michael Eisner...

in an AP Article the Reporter notes that a series of Notes and Memos toward Ovitz, Eisner Calls Ovitz a "psychopath", incapable of handing the company if he were incapacitated or killed (Back in 1997)

(Talk about calling the Kettle Black eh mikey?)

Also already Two Expert Witnesses for the Shareholders have taken the stand for the Plantiff Shareholders... and have both testified that Ovitz should have been fired ASAP and that he shouldn't have gotten that severance Package of 140 million bucks.. you can read the related stories here, here, here and here!!

oh and here too! (Eisner gets it 5 ways to sunday... as well as Michael ovitz.. gee guys.. don't you feel loved???!!!)

Then there is the Case of ABC Family violating FCC Laws... and as Tommy Lawson reported in the News that's right.. (So Knux if you ever want to run Power Rangers with Power Ranger Adverts.. read this article, as well as this one... . after all it will teach you that the FCC is watching ABC Family... for violations..

after all this could be the week we see things start to change for the better..

so stay tooned... because things will get... "Quite Animated!"

 

[tucsoncoyote]

Alright Who wants to be a CEO?

actually I found this today and this was rather intriguing...

after all it's what the Disney board is planning to do come June 2005..

"they're looking for a CEO"

in fact this article, in Reuters has all the Details... and in fact the comapy that will be doing the work is in fact Heidrick & Struggles, a leader in looking for CEO and administrative leadership..(I'm thinking it's their Los Angeles Office that is going to do the work..(as BUrbank California is right next door..)

so then... who wants to be a CEO for Disney? Line up your resume's and send them there.. cause who knows.. maybe a no name will get in..

 

[N310DA]

I'm glad they're using an outside source to find a new CEO. This way we don't have to worry about Eisner or his little friends corrupting things so much.

 

[tucsoncoyote]

Monday at the Ovitz Trial ......new allegations ensue...

Day 3 of the Ovitz Trial today was rather interesting indeed as it seems that Ovitz got a severance package that a Lot of People Deemed "Unreasonable.."

and for good reason too In the Monday Associated Press report, we find out that Ovitz received a rather hefty sum of cash even for a President of the Walt Disney company.. (and this is getting me to thinking.. could this be "The Smoking Gun"? )

Kevin J. Murphy, an economics and law professor at the University of Southern California, testified that Ovitz's annual base salary and bonus were well above what was paid to similarly situated media executives, as well as presidents who didn't hold the title of chief executive in Fortune 500 companies.

The median combined salary and bonus for presidents who weren't CEOs in Fortune 500 companies was $540,000, Murphy said. Ovitz's annual salary and bonus was $8.5 million, he said.

Now why is it that Ovitz's salary and Bonuses were 16 times that of a Normal CEO? Even his own Boss Michael Eisner makes 6 million a year (1 million in Salary and another 5 million in bonuses..)

that's indeed the puzzle we have to solve.. and why is it that Ovitz for all his Lavish "Expenditures which were revealed on Friday's report, got such a Highly touted 140 Million Dollar Severance Package for doing wrong?

it's these questions I bring before you ladies and Gentlemen of Disney Fandom, and I put them on the table for you to discuss. after all once we figure out the "Why". the "Who and what for" should be rather easy...

 

[SilverKnight]

Oy. Disney's goin' to hell in a handcart, and it looks like it's dragging everybody in its ranks down for the ride. (Not that some of them don't deserve it, but still.) Poor Walt must be spinning in his grave.

 

[tucsoncoyote]

What Have you done? or Giving out some "Tough Disney Loving"

Oy. Disney's goin' to hell in a handcart, and it looks like it's dragging everybody in its ranks down for the ride. (Not that some of them don't deserve it, but still.) Poor Walt must be spinning in his grave.

That's true SilverKnight but then I'm going to then shoot right back to you and every other Disney Fan who is out there a challenge, and please don't take this as an insult, but rather a question....

What have you done to save Disney?

That's right folks, what have you done to save The Walt Disney Company? In fact that's a question I ask myself about a lot of fans today wondering what they have done to stop this incessant carnage from happening? and apparently nothing has been done.

So don't you think it's only fair that Walt Disney IS spinning in his grave?

After all, I've heard all the excuses, and I've heard all the complaining, and frankly it's left me wondering if Fans, consumers, and even share hoders really want to save Disney.

Or as I can cite from a Line from Kim Possible's episode, Car Trouble

Shego (About Dr. Freeman) : Maybe he won't do it, because he Can't do it. Right Dr. D?

After all you're right Disney has been going to heck in a hand basket, and again I must reinterate... what have people done to stop it?

I can tell you what some people have done, Silverknight, some of us have banded together, we've brainstormed the ideas, and we realize that one the fans, consumers and shareholders of Disney are the only ones who can stop this carnage.. no one else can nor will.. After all I say put aside the differences here and look at the bigger scope of the picture. After all we let that happen.. so maybe Eisner should step down, or maybe we should help him. Or maybe we should just do nothing and let the Carnage continue.

But the bottom line is this, and This goes out to every last fan.. if we Fail, then Walter E. Disney, Has every right to come back and Haunt each and every one of us.. in our sleep.. after all we are Disney, no one else is..

that's really all I need to say..

 

[Vdubdavid]

As far as what this fan has done, I myself am purely a fan of the feature films and I have been supportive of their DVD releases by getting the movies they treat with respect with correct aspect ratio and full restoration, like "The Love Bug", the "Alice in Wonderland" special edition, the Treasures of course, and I'm sure that the Aladdin Platinum set will be under our Christmas tree this December.

 

[tucsoncoyote]

I don't like being a Grinch... but...

As far as what this fan has done, I myself am purely a fan of the feature films and I have been supportive of their DVD releases by getting the movies they treat with respect with correct aspect ratio and full restoration, like "The Love Bug", the "Alice in Wonderland" special edition, the Treasures of course, and I'm sure that the Aladdin Platinum set will be under our Christmas tree this December.

That's nice Vdubdavid, bht the point is this.. if the fans don't stand up and start talking with each other and doing things in a Positive aspect then all that you are saying about the Aladdin Platinum set might come to pass but beyond 2012 you can expect nothing fun, interesting or very creative to come out of Disney... or haven't you noticed?

Pixar and Dreamworks are doing quite well, and after 2006, when Pixar leaves Disney, well what does Disney have left to offer? The Feature animation will be poorly done CGI that will be outsourced, the TV Shows will be the same, and will be lacking the quality they used to have..and in fact, Robert Iger will be the CEO and will have cancelled out those Monday Night Football games and give us nothing but Trashy soap operas and bad programming on ABC Family...

and that's if we do nothing... so I just hope you can enjoy that Aladdin Platnim DVD Set by THis Christmas, because if you're thinking about a Classic Darkwing Duck DVD by 2009, .... forget it..

that's really all I need to say..

 

[N310DA]

tucsoncoyote: I'm a member of savedisney.com myself. I wish I could spare some cash to donate towards Roy and Stanley's fight, but I'm a teenager without a job (I'm still looking for one though).

My question is, what more can I as a fan do to help save Disney? Beleive me, I want to help the best I can. I can't just sit and watch all that Walt built be destroyed.

 

[tucsoncoyote]

tucsoncoyote: I'm a member of savedisney.com myself. I wish I could spare some cash to donate towards Roy and Stanley's fight, but I'm a teenager without a job (I'm still looking for one though).

My question is, what more can I as a fan do to help save Disney? Beleive me, I want to help the best I can. I can't just sit and watch all that Walt built be destroyed.

N310DA, PM Me, after all I have an idea or ideas already and in fact you can find a coulple of solutions right in my sig.. (after all I may be a Superhero.. or I deflintiely can be an evil genius.. or better yet, I'll PM you..

 

[SilverKnight]

After the whole DWD going off the air on 11/1 broke, I tried searching for an email/mailing address for Disney on their site, and I was so confused by how everything was laid out, I couldn't even find the section I was supposed to go to for help. I won't say they were purposely keeping me (the disgruntled consumer) from finding it, but it's still bothersome.

Furthermore, I've been trying to stop it by hitting them where it really hurts--the dollar signs. I won't help support a company that's being run so shoddily. Of course, I did so under the assumption that mayhaps enough lost wages would prompt a stark look at how they're running the company. I suppose that it really hasn't done anything, but in all honesty, there's really nothing I can do. I'm not a shareholder, I'm not rich, I have no influence. I'm just a Disney fan that wants to see the company run with the dignity and grace that it had in years past (not to sound like I'm pining for the "good old days", but come on already), and until either everyone else in the country forms in protest, or someone with real influence voices against Disney, we're all pretty much forced to sit back and watch.

Edit: savedisney.com, eh? I'll check it out and see if I can really do anything. If it involves money, though, I'll have to get more, er, creative.