"Kamp Koral" News and Discussion Thread

[SweetShop209]

Sponge On The Run was animated by Mikros Images in Canada. Kamp Koral is animated in India.

 

[Pooky]

Hmm.

On the one hand, it's another mediocre work from a franchise which has had a quality control issue for most of its life.

On the other hand, relative to similar shows like Flintstones Kids, Tom & Jerry Kids, Popeye and Son, Jungle Cubs and all but 2 or 3 other infantilised spin-offs and reboots, it's a pitch-perfect continuation and a veritable work of art.

 

[Rhaynebow]

Well that wasn’t....terrible. Which is good. The animation leaves a lot to be desired though. Like others have said, it’s very...OG Xbox to me, like...OG Xbox CUTSCENES to me. The facial expressions are funny though. I also really liked that Pearl’s gonna be in this show as a baby.

But my concerns over the VAs still stand from months ago; besides Sandy, I don’t think any of these guys bothered to try to sound like kids. In fact, given how childish ADULT SB is, this honestly doesn’t feel like a prequel. Maybe when the show actually airs, he won’t know how to make Krabby Patties yet? There needs to be SOMETHING in here to let us know this is Spongebob as a kid beyond his clothes.


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[Ghostbuster]

Paramount+ will premiere the first 6 episodes of Kamp Koral and Sponge on the Run on March 4!

 

[Ghostbuster]

I realise I may be starting WW3 by posting this, but, check out the Created By credit on the video below:

 

[kanc]

I realise I may be starting WW3 by posting this, but, check out the Created By credit on the video below:

The video is now null

 

[SweetShop209]

I saw some of it, so I'll say that it says "created by Stephen Hillenberg".

 

[Nick Mick]

I realise I may be starting WW3 by posting this, but, check out the Created By credit on the video below:

LOL, why start a WW3? OK, it doesn't say "Based on characters created by Stephen Hillenburg" and instead says "Created by Stephen Hillenburg". Nickelodeon's decision to capitalize off the Kamp Koral segments of the latest SpongeBob film is a controversial one, and I respect most people's opinions on it. Yes, they may didn't ask Stephen directly to do this, but the show is done from the same team that worked on the latest seasons of the long-running hit, alongside Stephen Hillenburg. Whatever decision the higher-ups made, the crew seems to want to create a fun comedic show that vastly differs from more innocent stuff suc as Baby Looney Tunes.

But this Created By credit was obviously put by default. I'm not starting a fight because they didn't put "Based on characters". And besides, the SpongeBob character WAS created by Stephen Hillenburg as a whole, so if SpongeBob's behavior doesn't precisely match the personality on his same-named show (makes sense since he's younger), there are still the designs of him and the other deuteragonist characters.

Btw, why was the video taken down?

EDIT: Somebody uploaded the end credits:

 

[SweetShop209]

PieGuyRulz recently put out a video where he talks about the confusing timeline about the production of the series. It certainly shed some light on what could've happened.

 

[grumix8]

they should leave sponge-bob alone making more spin-off just make more money and less sponge-bob movies.

 

[SweetShop209]

Vincent Waller said that Stephen Hillenberg knew that the show was being made.





I'm not surprised it took Vincent this long to respond as to whether Steve knew about the show or not. When someone asked him about why content exclusive to the first movie didn't appear in the show until recently, he didn't give a response for 11 months.

 

[SweetShop209]

So, the confusion is back. Vincent Waller mentions some personal issues involving two dead friends, and how he's a bit jumbled in how he remembers things.

 

[wammyguide]

So, the confusion is back. Vincent Waller mentions some personal issues involving two dead friends, and how he's a bit jumbled in how he remembers things.

I would say that would be concerning, but 1) Ramsey Naito literally said Hillenburg was involved, and 2) that short literally says “created by Stephen Hillenburg” at the end.

Also, this:

 

[Nick Mick]

Okay, let's assume what Vincent Waller said is accurate (since he talked about "full disclosure"). But what will happen when Nickelodeon greenlits more spin-offs of SpongeBob in the future, without Stephen's consent? After all, the franchise has now reached the same kind of popularity as icons like Mickey Mouse and friends, and the Looney Tunes.

Granted, I do believe that people had a reason to be suspicious about that one in particular, and yes, because of the timing, Nick's past history of decision-making etc. But other than that, more spin offs will be inevitable, because that's basically what happens with lots of spin offs in the industry. And therefore, I don't believe people should be that dependent on finding the truth who's right and who's to blame, especially to the point of being emotionally affected. (not to be confused with actual criticism on the show itself and whether or not it stays true to the Hillenburg's humor)

As for Mr. Waller, after reading these very latest tweets of him, I definitely don't believe this whole thing is a setup to lie to people (for one reason or another).

 

[wammyguide]

Okay, let's assume what Vincent Waller said is accurate (since he talked about "full disclosure"). But what will happen when Nickelodeon greenlits more spin-offs of SpongeBob in the future, without Stephen's consent? After all, the franchise has now reached the same kind of popularity as icons like Mickey Mouse and friends, and the Looney Tunes.

Granted, I do believe that people had a reason to be suspicious about that one in particular, and yes, because of the timing, Nick's past history of decision-making etc. But other than that, more spin offs will be inevitable, because that's basically what happens with lots of spin offs in the industry. And therefore, I don't believe people should be that dependent on finding the truth who's right and who's to blame, especially to the point of being emotionally affected. (not to be confused with actual criticism on the show itself and whether or not it stays true to the Hillenburg's humor)

As for Mr. Waller, after reading these very latest tweets of him, I definitely don't believe this whole thing is a setup to lie to people (for one reason or another).

If he was okay with one spin off, I doubt he’d be upset with more.

 

[Nick Mick]

If he was okay with one spin off, I doubt he’d be upset with more.

I think that depends on the premise of each spin-off. Like, Nickelodeon at this point has the power to make both spin-offs with premises Stephen may did like, and ones with premises he didn't. And much like us who see a spin-off to some extent and review it, that could be the case with Stephen; I don't think he would be like "make whatever spin-off you want" or the polar opposite, black or white. Especially since he already seemed to be someone who, despite disagreeing with stuff like crossovers and spin-offs (according to an old interview of him), seemed to be very supportive of the current SpongeBob crew. They made the latest SpongeBob seasons, which retain the show's humor, albeit there being more grossout humor at times.

The only thing I really hope is for the future spin-offs to retain the original show's humor and not greatly deviate from it. And that seems to be the case with Kamp Koral, which from what I see, doesn't heavily bank on the cute character designs (let aside its marketing), unlike other baby-themed shows.

Nickelodeon could pull a Loonatics Unleashed and greenlit an action show based on SpongeBob as a very worst case sceniaro, but I think that would be way too far-fetched to do.

 

[Rhaynebow]

Seeing all of these discussions of what Stephen would have wanted/not wanted is admittedly making me feel kinda...unclean. A humongous aspect of working in animation is accepting that when you pitch your idea to a network, that network can pretty much do whatever the heck they want with it if they accept it. They can make spin-offs, change whole storylines and characters, air it at the crack of dawn so it purposely fails, cancel it in less than a year and other things because they now own the idea. If the creator doesn’t want to do it, the network can fire them and find someone who will. Whether Stephen would love or hate a baby spinoff show isn’t up for any of us to really discuss. Nickelodeon and many other networks will follow the money regardless of the original creator’s feelings. I’m sure Craig McKracken has winced a few times at PPG2016, but that’s how the industry works.


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[Ghostbuster]

It's important to remember that Stephen didn't say that he didn't want any spin-offs, just that he didn't foresee any.

 

[Nick Mick]

Seeing all of these discussions of what Stephen would have wanted/not wanted is admittedly making me feel kinda...unclean. A humongous aspect of working in animation is accepting that when you pitch your idea to a network, that network can pretty much do whatever the heck they want with it if they accept it. They can make spin-offs, change whole storylines and characters, air it at the crack of dawn so it purposely fails, cancel it in less than a year and other things because they now own the idea. If the creator doesn’t want to do it, the network can fire them and find someone who will. Whether Stephen would love or hate a baby spinoff show isn’t up for any of us to really discuss. Nickelodeon and many other networks will follow the money regardless of the original creator’s feelings. I’m sure Craig McKracken has winced a few times at PPG2016, but that’s how the industry works.


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Couldn't say it any better. Though it's fair to say that just because a network can change storylines, greenlit spin-offs etc., that doesn't mean they can do these things well, just because a franchise is very well-known. But as I said already, that has to do with criticism on the shows themselves.

It's important to remember that Stephen didn't say that he didn't want any spin-offs, just that he didn't foresee any.

When I said "disagree with spin-offs" I didn't mean he was against them either, and I did also mention the interview. And I was trying to say what Mr. Waller also said (much better than me honestly ). Stephen wasn't interested in films and the early seasons of the show have a quite different style of humor. However, he ended playing an important role in the making of the film adaptation and the latest seasons, that include more slapstick humor.

By "retaining the show's original humor", I meant that the spin-offs have to be comedies, whether they are based on verbal or slapstick humor.

Also, just to clarify, I don't have anything against you for expressing different opinions.

 

[Ghostbuster]

Ah, sorry, I wasn't aiming that comment at you, @Nick Mick. Just in general, and I've seen a lot of comments around the net about how Stephen supposedly didn't want any spin-offs.