The only weapon that could kill Darkseid....

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I believe if the people of Metropolis had used the Nuclear Warhead, Darkseid would have been finished, your thoughts? It's just my opinion, so don't flame me for it.
 
It's a possibility since the characters aren't anywhere near as durable as they are in the comics.
 
I'm pretty sure that if Darkseid saw a nuke coming his way, he'd just use the Omega Effect to teleport it to the location that it originated from, giving those people (Metropolitans, in this case) a serious problem.
 
I think the biggest problem would be taking him by surprise. I mean as Harvey Dent said he's not just going to let a nuclear warhead smack into him. :shrug:
 
Nuclear bombs are never shown to their full extent in the media. They are looked at as little rockets that make bigger explosions. The fact is that no man or animal can withstand it's force. It's not about being fire proof or whatever. Your atoms fuse. Dangerous stuff.
 
Digu Volz said:
It's a possibility since the characters aren't anywhere near as durable as they are in the comics.

I've seen no evidence to support that...I don't think it would kill Darkseid...maybe knock him out...maybe.
 
I think the only thing that could kill him is the good ol' Anti-Life equation.
 
One problem with that. Using a nuke in downtown Metropolis would have wasted the entire city, and the radiation would have traveled down the east coast to Gotham, Bludhaven, and anything nearby.

Besides, I don't think a nuke could kill Superman (if you go by how he is in JL, and I'm assuming their near to same strength). That meteor blowing up in War World pt 1 was probably close to a nuclear blast, and if he wasn't iced, I doubt Darkseid would be, either.
 
SilverKnight said:
One problem with that. Using a nuke in downtown Metropolis would have wasted the entire city, and the radiation would have traveled down the east coast to Gotham, Bludhaven, and anything nearby.

Besides, I don't think a nuke could kill Superman (if you go by how he is in JL, and I'm assuming their near to same strength). That meteor blowing up in War World pt 1 was probably close to a nuclear blast, and if he wasn't iced, I doubt Darkseid would be, either.

I don't know about that.

In any case, while animated characters are a question, the comic versions definitely would survive. Actually, Darkseid ( when he's not being massively jobbed ) probably wouldn't even feel a nuclear blast point blank.
 
metaphysician said:
I don't know about that.

In any case, while animated characters are a question, the comic versions definitely would survive. Actually, Darkseid ( when he's not being massively jobbed ) probably wouldn't even feel a nuclear blast point blank.

The thing is, in both the comics, and the animated shows, there are inconsistincies in Superman's strength...I remember in one comic Superman caught a Gargoyle that was knocked off of a building...and he was actually struggling from it...but in another comic (no, not a Pre-Crisis one) Superman caught an airplane with almost no struggle at all...So you see, I don't think that the animated Superman is any weaker than the Superman from the comics...he's supposedly the same strength...it's just that the writers screw up sometimes and makes him seem weaker...especially in the first season of Justice League. But writers in the comic books do it too. So I don't think that Superman and Darkseid would be killed (But possibly knocked unconsious) by a nuke. But I definitly don't think that Darkseid wouldn't even feel it at point blank range...a blast like that would hurt him a little...I don't see how it could make him bleed or anything but it would stun him a little. But then what do I know?
 
JusticeLeagueLegion said:
I've seen no evidence to support that...I don't think it would kill Darkseid...maybe knock him out...maybe.

Superman has struggled with quite a bit less in the toon than in the comics (where has has pushed a planet and dug trenches in the moon) and his blows were capable of hurting Darkseid, who (wrecked Superman in the comics even when he was angry with less than five hits), by this logic, must also be weaker. Though it's unknown how durable Darkseid in the 'toon actually is, I'd assume it's comparatively less than comics (but then again it might not be). Either way, it's a theory, and has support, and since scientific facts can actually be just probable theories, it has validity.
 
JusticeLeagueLegion said:
The thing is, in both the comics, and the animated shows, there are inconsistincies in Superman's strength...I remember in one comic Superman caught a Gargoyle that was knocked off of a building...and he was actually struggling from it...but in another comic (no, not a Pre-Crisis one) Superman caught an airplane with almost no struggle at all...So you see, I don't think that the animated Superman is any weaker than the Superman from the comics...he's supposedly the same strength...it's just that the writers screw up sometimes and makes him seem weaker...especially in the first season of Justice League. But writers in the comic books do it too. So I don't think that Superman and Darkseid would be killed (But possibly knocked unconsious) by a nuke. But I definitly don't think that Darkseid wouldn't even feel it at point blank range...a blast like that would hurt him a little...I don't see how it could make him bleed or anything but it would stun him a little. But then what do I know?

Ive read enough Superman comics and seen enough of the animated series to know that Superman is nowhere near his comicbook strength level in his animated form. I remember a particular ep where he strugled to stop a crane from hitting the ground. Thats a task the comic book Supes could have done with one finger. The comics Superman has survived a 25 megaton nuclear explosion but was knocked completly out (point blank Darkseid WOULD be KO'd as well) I seriously doubt the animated version could live through that. The closest the animated version has looked like the comics version as far as powerlevel was Batman Beyond "The Call" now THAT was Superman. Picking up ships and holding up buildings.
 
Darkseid can be killed the same way Doomsday was killed. Teleport him to the end of time, where nothing survives.
 
Digu Volz said:
Superman has struggled with quite a bit less in the toon than in the comics (where has has pushed a planet and dug trenches in the moon) and his blows were capable of hurting Darkseid, who (wrecked Superman in the comics even when he was angry with less than five hits), by this logic, must also be weaker. Though it's unknown how durable Darkseid in the 'toon actually is, I'd assume it's comparatively less than comics (but then again it might not be). Either way, it's a theory, and has support, and since scientific facts can actually be just probable theories, it has validity.

The Superman from the current comics CANNOT move planets...the Superman from the Pre-Crisis comics could...don't confuse them. It was even mentioned in an issue of SUPERMAN recently that he couldn't move planets.

And Knight, I remember that episode...that was LIVEWIRE...and the truth is...they goofed...but I also remember, that in a comic book, as I already said before, Superman caught a gargoyle that was a whole lot smaller than that crane...and it was still a struggle for him. But there are other comics where he can easily catch an airplane...And I beleive someone on the bourds mentioned once that the animated Superman flew into the center of the sun. And like you said, he caught a building on "The Call." The point I'm making is, is that writers goof up sometimes...sometimes they make Superman look weak...other times not...it's just inconsistincies...and there are lots of them...I really doubt that Timm and co. intended to make Superman weaker...I've seen the animated Superman do just as much as the comics Superman.

Another thing, it's a whole lot easier to show Superman struggling in animation than in comic-panels.
 
JusticeLeagueLegion said:
The Superman from the current comics CANNOT move planets...the Superman from the Pre-Crisis comics could...don't confuse them. It was even mentioned in an issue of SUPERMAN recently that he couldn't move planets..

Actually he DID move War World during OUR WORLDS AT WAR, meaning it is WITHIN his CAPACITY. NEVERMIND the FACT that if you compared strength FEATS, animated Supes probably wouldn't even REACH class 100.

There's no point in using CAPS, I can read just fine and my vision is exceptional, nevermind my computer not being a thousand miles away or anything.
 
Digu Volz said:
Actually he DID move War World during OUR WORLDS AT WAR, meaning it is WITHIN his CAPACITY. NEVERMIND the FACT that if you compared strength FEATS, animated Supes probably wouldn't even REACH class 100.

There's no point in using CAPS, I can read just fine and my vision is exceptional, nevermind my computer not being a thousand miles away or anything.


He moved War World, but IIRC, he had several temporary power-ups going at the time. On more than one other occasion, Superman needed help just to move the moon.

In any case, Darkseid is usually portrayed as quite a good deal more durable than Supes, at least when not in a Superman comic.
 
Re: 'The only weapon that could kill Darkseid'

MDawg957 said:
I think the only thing that could kill him is the good ol' Anti-Life equation.

I most definitely agree with 'MDawg957' that the 'Anti-Life equation' poses a significantly deadly threat to Darkseid, this is why he is so obsessed in his search to control it.
Another 'weapon' that can be dangerously fatal to the god of Apokolips is his own Omega beams as seen in 'S:TAS' episode 'Legacy' (and what an Awesome episode it was) in which he literally blew his top when Superman almost destroyed Darkseid with it :cool: :cool:
 
pseudowudo said:
...(and what an Awesome episode it was) in which he literally blew his top when Superman almost destroyed Darkseid with it :cool: :cool:

That was probably...the best scene in the entire history of DC animated universe. It makes you think...if his beams can do that to himself, and he's indestructable...how much easier could he wipe out mankind? Remember on "Apokolips...Now!" Part Two, when Darkseid says "This world dies...now!" His eyes started glowing with Omega energy...as if he was getting ready to destroy the whole world with his beams. I think he could if he wanted to...after all...if his Omega Beams can make Superman bleed...and at point blank range almost blow Darkseid's head off...it probably wouldn't be too difficult for Darkseid to blow up Earth with his beams. Do you think he could?
 
Darkseid's biggest weakness is Wonder Woman's chastity belt.
 
Yeah, discussing power levels can be confusing.

Let's see, at the top of the food chain, you've got THE God (with an uppercase 'G'). The one, the only, the big kahuna. There is only one God, and God is omnipotent, omnipresent, and indestructible.

OK, Darkseid, Highfather, Zeus, Hades, etc. are all 'gods' (with a lowercase 'g') -- heads and shoulders above us mere mortals, but still under THE God in the food chain. Apparently, every planet has its own gods (weren't there gods of Mars, for example?), and the Galaxy-faring gods, the "New gods." Aren't they basically immortal, but not indestructible? They CAN be killed, but it's not easy, and if no one kills them, then they'll live forever. (Kind of reminds me of the Q Continuum on Star Trek: TNG, DS9, & Voyager.)

Then, we have the superhumanoids. Superman, Green Lantern, etc. They are mortal, but very durable, and with powers above and beyond mere mortals. (Either by nature or by technology, they gain their powers.)

Finally, there are we mere mortals. Just your average Human (or other sentient species) trying to live day-to-day on whatever planet we're stuck on.

That's the way I've always understood the DCAU food chain. As for the question itself, I don't think a nuclear blast, even at point blank range, would kill Darkseid. Since Darkseid is supernatural (a 'god'), he can only be killed with supernatural weapons. A weapon designed by gods to kill gods, perhaps?
 

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