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Aspiring Hollywood actor Simon Williams is struggling to get his career off the ground. During a chance meeting with Trevor Slattery, an actor whose biggest roles may be well behind him, Simon learns legendary director Von Kovak is remaking the superhero film “Wonder Man.” These two actors at opposite ends of their careers doggedly pursue life-changing roles in this film as audiences get a peek behind the curtain of the entertainment industry.

Disney+ Streaming Date: January 27, 2026

Directors: Destin Daniel Cretton (1-2); James Ponsoldt (3-4); Tiffany Johnson (5-6); Stella Meghie (7-8)
Cast: Yahya Abdul-Mateen II, Ben Kingsley, Arian Moayed, X Mayo, Zlatko Burić, Olivia Thirlby, and Byron Bowers

Episode 1 "Matinee"
Somebody's actually remaking "Wonder Man?"

Episode 2 "Self-Tape"
It's never been this hard to do a self-tape before.

Episode 3 "Pacoima"
Birthday parties are kind of stressful.

Episode 4 "Doorman"
Ding dong.

Episode 5 "Found Footage"
Try a peach ring. You'll understand.

Episode 6 "Call Back"
It is tight, Jake.

Episode 7 "Kathy Friedman"
The New York Times finds us fascinating.

Episode 8 "Yucca Valley"
Don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys.

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My son and I just finished Wonder Man. We were shocked at how good it was, after knowing almost nothing about it. The rapport between the two leads looked effortless and fun. I was frustrated that Marvel didn't do a better job of publicizing this, but it would be kind of difficult. This is a unique superhero show.
 
I didn't expect much going into this show but I ended up loving it! Definitely a huge win that MCU's D+ series desperately needed and I'm saying this is in the top 3 of all the D+ shows. Glad I ignored the promotion of the show since it really had nothing to do with superhero fatigue and reminded me more of things like Robert Altman's The Player. This was the right choice, a character study in a MCU show that doesn't lean too much into the MCU. Phenomenal!

It dug deep into its two main characters with their personalities, their fears, their flaws, their wants. The show was really about both Simon and Trevor going from selfish to selfless people. Power of friendship, lol, but just really the luck of meeting the one right person who points you to the right direction in life. Trevor was truly trying to start over but gets wrapped in a government op and ends up really liking Simon and doing the selfless thing of taking the blame and going to DODC prison instead of Simon because his life is just starting out and he admits to having wasted a lot of chances in his life. Or with Simon, is inability to connect with people, anxiety at a family gathering, coming off as a self-centered jerk, falling in love with cinema. Even Eric, the older brother that had to be the good son and live a rigid life, got the boring 9-5 insurance agent job, following all the rules knowing that their mom would still dote on the baby who gets to screw up and pursue his dreams with his parents' unwavering support. I even felt for Chuck Eastman and his family's problems and he only appeared in the final third of the last episode!

The Hollywood satire (the p.a. , breathing exercise, the day player with too many notes on the script. trial and tribulations actors go through, journalists and character assassination, going method and embedding in a family (anyone see Dickie Roberts?), etc.) were fine and all but focusing on those two characters was the right choice and the show shines. Amazing chemistry. Didn't cling to being in the MCU but when it did, usch great powerful moments like Simon texting Trevor it must be fate and shares a photo of Von Kovak's star which turned out to be right in front of the Chinese Theatre, which Trevor had a part in in Iron Man 3. It was a good swing on Marvel Studios' part. I'd love to see more from Destin Daniel Cretton. I'm a bit more hyped for Brand New Day now.

Doorman was an interesting cautionary tale mid-season. The format reminded me of when Atlanta did a standalone episode. I totally gasped when I saw the Roxxon branded dumpster. heh heh. They unknowingly created another teleporter linked to the Darkforce Dimension, heh. Poor Josh Gad. But gotta wonder if Simon's powers are tied to Roxxon, too. That kitchen fire when he was 13 was the earliest we know of his powers manifesting so Roxxon doing a small town dirty in the 90s sounds about right. Seems all they do is cause environmental disasters. I know the buzz online is 'he's a mutant' but I'm not so sure.

They also portrayed Damage Control a bit better than Ms. Marvel. It's interesting that at this point, DODC is in the crosshairs of federal oversight because their supermax isn't filled to capacity - so they could be facing big budget cuts and layoffs if they don't find the next big threat. Cleary, the only other character besides Trevor to have been from a previous project, is chomping at the bit for a get, he bags Trevor, and gives him a deal he can't refuse. Feels like they're being set up to come into prominence in the next saga when Mutants become commonplace.

The comedy was really on point. Found Footage demonstrated that well - the Go pro blackmail, that sounds like something technology could do, finding out the query is an ex-partner, all they're doing is making candy, Trevor's old dealer finds them, the nosy neighbor calls the cops, the one girl tells them the truth about Go Pro, gunshot, they all run out the back. Then learn the callback was moved up to now. :D Or them wondering what did Joseph Gordon-Levitt do to that pigeon, lmao.

But what next. Simon is now a fugitive on the run with Trevor. I mean, I hope this somehow leads to West Coast Avengers but realy in the embryonic phase of that if at all. Unless I missed it, in addition to not stating the origin of Simon's powers, they didn't explain how his father died either which was intriguing.
 
I do not like how they made him a mutant. It feels like there were a lot of other Mutants this mini could be about since they changed the source material so much.
 
I do not like how they made him a mutant. It feels like there were a lot of other Mutants this mini could be about since they changed the source material so much.
This is such a strnage complaint, the main thing Wonder Man is even known for is being an actor that's also a superhero.
There's no literally no mutant character who makes sense for this story.
 
This is such a strnage complaint, the main thing Wonder Man is even known for is being an actor that's also a superhero.
There's no literally no mutant character who makes sense for this story.
Yeah, but they changed everything about the character besides that. He has nothing in common with his comics counterpart aside from wanting to be an actor, can't even say he has the same powerset because the show was so non-descript about it.
 
Yeah, but they changed everything about the character besides that. He has nothing in common with his comics counterpart aside from wanting to be an actor, can't even say he has the same powerset because the show was so non-descript about it.
His emotional outbursts are a nod to his mental breakdowns in the comics to an extent. In hindsight, his parents should have gotten him a child psychiatrist but instead doted on him his whole life and contributed to his mental issues. It wasn't really until his ex and Trevor that he shifted away from his own selfishness.

If there is a season 2, I could see there being some explanation about his powers, if they're the same subset as in the comics, and how he got them since Agent Cleary had just pinpointed his energy was ionic in nature, like in the comics, in season finale. I don't accept he's a mutant till they say so. There's still a chance he could be an Enhanced, like Doorman or Jessica Jones. They did bother to show Doorman getting his powers from Roxxon toxic waste.

It was a breath of fresh air that this season wasn't a chronological straight up origin story boilerplate. I'm sure later on if not in this show, then in one of the movies also becoming a superhero. It was the right choice, imo, not to broach every aspect of Wonder Man in this season. Even then they aren't, his dad isn't an industrialist and his brother isn't a supervillain... and the MCU Wonder Man won't have the connection to Ultron like in the comics.
 
You know I've said this before and I'll say it again; due to the fact that Marvel properties especially not from the most well known subjects weren't nearly as popular in the 90s at least to a more common audience member then they are now, I didn't really grow up knowing there was even an Avengers when I was a kid. Then again it took till the cartoon Justice League to learn that was the ACTUAL name for the team and it should have NO association with Superfriends, and likewise took another super hero cartoon to learn about the Avengers team. That being Avengers United They Stand which admittedly I never saw in full but I did see clips of, read about, saw the intro and knew a fair amount of basics about the team and it's roster. So yeah before I even associated Captain America, Iron Man, Thor or even Hulk as Avengers (which I should have anyway considering they were parodied in Dexter's Lab Justice Friends but yeah didn't get who that was a parody in the late 90s) I did associate with a bunch of the more B-D level members of the team. All of whom would eventually wind up actually getting roles within the MCU... okay well Tigra didn't since she was supposed to get a show with Dazzler on Hulu that never materialized due that whole Offenders project shutting down, but outside of her everyone else wound up getting some sort of role in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Ant Man and Wasp have movies and now over half of that team either started out or wound up getting their own streaming service series on Disney Plus, which of course includes Simon Williams. Of course if you read into Simon's super convoluted and complicated history as a Marvel character you'd wonder how they would incorporate that into a show especially one that wanted to be a bit more self contained from other heroes. Like I think after how some of the Phase 4 and Phase 5 shows wound up doing Marvel was probably more hesitant on them being spectacles with deep connections with previous projects, but probably were open to them being their own thing if they could wind up genearting good buzz and eyeballs. Which is what Wonder Man has done which I feel the most part is generated from a fairly solid show... that does have some problems I'll talk about but does overall work.

Might away well start with the negative though; I'm not against this show being lower stakes and making it clear from the get go it was and thankfully not deviating from that. Unlike say Secret Invasion that wanted to push itself as this big deal with massive consequences that really couldn't ever feel like it at all or this character piece that seemed to have to force in action to justify itself as a Marvel project, Wonder Man didn't really have that issue. Though I guess the team still wanted to have this arc about Simon Williams finally at the very end truly mastering his powers and showing them off properly by saving Trevor from Damage Control which... yeah that part felt incredibly rushed and like they were trying to surprise folks with the extent of what he can do. Now some people had an issue with the idea Trevor could plant these reports as his Mandarin persona to try and explain away the explosion as his doing going "wait when he would have learned how to edit like that" but I can buy that considering he has been an actor and involved with the business for decades so could have easily picked up those skills enough to make that performance especially when post people don't know the truth about Mandarin. So I don't have an issue with that especially as his skills aren't tied into his arc. They are with Simon though so yeah just having them fully mastered does feel wrong. What I do feel we needed even if it was just a montage before the break out was because Simon finally accomplished his dreams of being Wonder Man and this beloved actor and connecting with people like his father wanted him having this lift off his shoulders that allowed him full mastery and him doing something to now prove he is a hero. Like "now I see who I truly am and thus can truly control what I got." And that I know is the intention but that isn't something you save as a surprise and still have to get the character to fully go through learning. Now I get why they did focus on him connecting with Chuck and his family to show his growth and comfort as an actor and now being able to see other's plights and do something about it and instead worrying about his own selfishness and again this series wouldn't make sense to end with a big battle but like... still feel the pieces of Simon's powers finally being mastered did need to be connected better then they were.

I guess there are also some more dry spells in this sort of series not like obnoxiously boring or anything but some bits didn't really hit the way they should have. Like a fair amount of Simon's scenes with Janelle or the audition at Von Kovak's house. Like this series actually isn't trying to go for the more in your face or just silly kind of jokes (it has it's moments that work but isn't relying on it) and be more serious and grounded then you'd think but there are a few times when it does stretch out a bit and especially if you don't have action to balance that out with you do have to be more wary of editing that in. I guess also I am annoyed at some of the dots they don't fully connect. Like how come at no point Trevor never actually points out "oh yeah I was taken by the real Mandarin yes there is one even though he doesn't even like that name says it's totally racist" considering how this whole plot with him builds on being free after the events of Shang Chi but like doesn't bring up what happens in Shang Chi? I guess it is that "again this trying to be more grounded so doesn't want to reference the more out there elements of the MCU" but as I pointed out in Hawkeye if that takes away from the scene or point that does hurt and yeah did hurt them doing that here.


With that said there is a lot to really like about this series so allow me to go over it's good points here.

- For starters it is really nice that we are getting a character focused series without feeling the need to throw in any sort of arbitrary bad guy just for there to be someone to punch out. Now yes we do have Damage Control and though there are a couple of scenes that kind of make you almost feel bad Cleary is losing his job you aren't really supposed to be on his side. But I actually really like how they are implimented; the idea Cleary is pretty much desperately trying to find out Simon as someone with powers they can take down though being a bit based on his fear of his potential and wanting to ensure he doesn't do any damage, more "okay we were made as a way of storing villains and threats and don't really have much to do now so there are going to be budget cuts and loses of our funding so we have to justify our existence more." Which honestly I think is something really interesting they could do with these guys going forward as whether or not Simon is revealed to be a mutant, I kind of feel THIS is going to be their justification for dealing with mutants and super powered threats in the future. "Well we have to make sure they aren't a threat to anyone and it has nothing to do with the fact we are trying to justify our own existence since that would look clearly very bad on our part." And though part of me wishes this was brought a bit more to the forefront, I do like how it's clear that Clearly is being very careful on HOW he handles going after Simon due to the events of Ms. Marvel. Since after what happened when he tried bringing in Kamala Kahn (well that was more Deever's fault which I also assume is why he had to transfer halfway around the country) and how that resulted in far more damage BECAUSE of Damage Control and elevating a hero he has to play it more coy and to the vest. Thus why using Slattery to try and get concrete information first and you know not being upfront over the top in his attempts at getting Williams. Especialy since technically due to how Simon can't control his powers in 90% of this story you can see why he would be considered a danger but yeah this story does give reason why it has to be hidden and not involve much use of them without it coming across as cheap or anything which I appreciate.

- Of course this wouldn't have worked at all if you couldn't get int Simon Williams as a character at all so have to seriously commend Yahya Abdul Mateen II for really accomplishing that. Which I think is especially interesting for me to say as yeah I have not been a fan of what I've seen of him. I saw bits of Matrix Resurrections and he didn't make much of a compelling semi Morpheus or whatever he was playing, forgot he was even in The Greatest Showman and yeah I did not vibe with him as Black Manta in either Aquaman movie. Like Lost Kingdom was especially bad in the "been there done that haven't grown at all" but even the first movie didn't believe in the relationship he had with his dad and yeah in that armor he looked cool but I didn't really feel the animosity he and Arthur shared. I believed it more when he was Garner in the Baywatch movie which was my favorite role of his until yeah this show. I think he won me over when he was talking about the notes he had in American Horror Story not in a way that was "oh hey I shouldn't die I can offer so much more please find a way for my character to keep going" but more "okay I was thinking of this for my character's backstory and think it would make more sense if we went this direction and tried to be authentic here." Because you get that passion and sense he does really care and want what's best for the role but yeah is also overly focusing on it to the point where you get why this guy might have personally not been cast that much because of this sort of reputation and why he is so hungry for that sort of role. And that yeah just passion and focus aren't important if you can't be in the moment and let go of that anxiety and seeing that in his relationship with Trevor worked really well. I guess some people will be bummed that though we do see his brother a couple of times there's no real connection with his Grim Reaper persona but for this sort of series it wasn't needed and that grounding with his family and flashbacks espeically with his dad taking him out of school to see Wonder Man do paint an earnest picture of this guy you do want to see more of. I also really appreciate that he did wind up making the movie and following through getting the acclaim and only after that did he rescue Trevor. Again this is a lower stakes sort of series so him enjoying that moment and then proving to be a real hero does pay off well again parts of that could have been done better but eh not going to complain any more on that front.

- Though in terms of favorite character surprisingly that is going to Trevor for this series. Now I guess I am one who wasn't betrayed by the whole Mandarin twist and honestly preferred Wenwu when he debuted in Shang Chi then trying to do that sort of story with Downy Jr's take on Tony Stark in the MCU, but to me in his previous roles the guy worked best as supporting comic relief you don't let overstay it's welcome. He had a good scene with Downy in Iron Man 3 (okay that's another wasted joke since at Simon's mom party you have these guys asking about if Simon knows other heroes really should of had a scene of Trevor going "oh yeah I was held at gun point by Tony Stark which compared to other times I've been held at gunpoint wasn't actually that bad") then an amusing short in All Hail The King and worked in his scenes in Shang Chi but yeah he wasn't like a major player who had any dramatic depth. He was either the star of a short or just comedy for some scenes of a movie but you can't really do that when you're the co lead of a more serious sort of project. And though there are certainly good comedic moments with the character I'll get to I do appreciate that Kingsley also was able to portray Trevor as serious without it feeling like it went against the other times we saw him as it was in situation where he would either be passionate about or have grown a connection to actual be serious when the moment called for it. Like him actually offering Simon genuine advice or when he saw Simon's power and made the decision to break that camera and not offer him up having grown a genuine friendship with the guy or calm him down after Simon thought he blew the audition. Like it is nice to see someone who was just treated as "ha ha you thought he was this credible monster but no just a former drunken pathetic actor there as a gag" to have some actual depth to him. And what I like too is that though you do know there is going to be a break between Simon and Trevor when Simon finds out why Trevor reached out to him, I like that it isn't just Simon being betrayed that leads to a break up but also the realization Damage Control is looking after him and him feeling that means he doesn't have a chance for continuing on as Wonder Man and that leading to his blow up since there was no plan in play until Trevor made that sacrifice. Like it does show the two had an earnest connection after Simon had stuck up for him with Joey Pants or was one of the few to acknowledge him not just as the Mandarin but for his other roles and them getting to bond at that level. So you still get that dramatic twist (that I guess a few times was played up a bit before it came but eh I can at least see why they went there) but it being there for the story and it making sense why the characters reconnected so much later.

- And you know though the series isn't as goofy or wild as I was picturing it would be, when it does have moments of comedy they do generally work well. Like there certainly are funnier Disney Plus shows and I do prefer these comedies to be more generally direct and wonky but the moments work for what they are. Such as Joe Pantillaino having a frenemy relationship with Trevor because of taking a role he had when Trevor was drugged up ages ago but become this pretentious sort of "acting is only about how much you can make not the role it's more about how to remodel your hosue with the money it gives you" sort of holes. Or the entire episode where they were chasing down this kid who filmed Simon beating up some of the thugs after Trevor who wanted them to get his motorcycle back from these seeming drug criminals... who turns out were actually only cooking baked goods and that kid being a weiner who Trevor didn't have a problem getting shot when they got the tape back finding more comradery with the other gang. Some of Kovak's bits from "use my house however you want to play out scenes" were good and I do like Simon overly worrying about that reporter and finding out his brother was actually being supportive of him for once and she was more trying to look into what happened with Slattery.

- Though yeah the episode that may weirdly stick with me most of all in this Wonder Man show... is the episode totally not about that at all. Like I do have this feeling when thinking of the series they wanted a really good reason why Simon would feel he couldn't use his powers in Hollywood so came up with this idea but then someone went "hmmm you think we should give a backstory for that" and then working on the backstory came up with this whole other sort of episode they decided to put in the middle of this one. Since though I do get why DeMarr's story was here this in most other shows would warrant what maybe a 5 minute flashback or something to really explain but they give it a whole episode but frankly that really works because this idea really lends itself to expansion. I really like the visuals of how Demarr first discovers this power and how they make sure to paint him as someone who doesn't want the lime light and doesn't think much of himself and when having this power exposed is thrusted more into the lime light and is taken by it even though he realizes his 15 minutes of fame has resulted in now new debts and being thought of as a joke. Like part of me was wondering at first "okay a guy does have door powers you know are powers you really think that's something people would just get bored by and write off so quickly" but yeah thinking about it even if the Marvel Cinematic Universe isn't the insane local the main marvel comics verse is people having powers is just something a lot generally accept and yeah now live in an era where if you aren't doing super big or well known things with there is a mundanity about it. That's a big reason why I really dug She Hulk which I feel did explore those better but honestly this backstory touches on that as well especially with people sick of Demarr's Ding dong catchphrase and him trying to apologize for advertising terrible products. I admit after the build up I kind of thought something far more horrible would happen to Josh Gad then "oh he was lost forever in the doorway dimension" especially to pass it as a law but honestly how sometimes mundane problems can lead to more overcomplicated scenarios (like that's something I noticed even at my job) I do get Hollywood wanted to black list this problem soon as it started getting blame shifted to it. Like it is too bad we aren't getting a second She Hulk season as Jennifer Walters having to defend this guy against Damage Control would be good... then again so would her also having to defend Simon for breaking out Slattery but yeah not holding my breath on that happening.

Overall a very solid series. The ending could have been better explained and some slow moments but did invest me far more then I thought it would and yeah despite not being the meta goofy sort of "superhero fatigue parody" i was expecting did it's own unique thing very well and shows there are still ways to make different kind of stories in the MCU.
 
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Yeah, but they changed everything about the character besides that. He has nothing in common with his comics counterpart aside from wanting to be an actor, can't even say he has the same powerset because the show was so non-descript about it.
He does have the same power set they say multiple times his powers are ionic in nature.
And beyond that, I need to ask again who would've made more sense for a show like this than Wonder Man?
 
He does have the same power set they say multiple times his powers are ionic in nature.
And beyond that, I need to ask again who would've made more sense for a show like this than Wonder Man?
Yes, any mutant can fit because they're telling a mostly original story; it doesn't matter that Wonder Man is an actor, you can put any mutant who is having issues with controlling their powers in this role.

They shouldn't bring in old characters and make them mutants when there are so many unused ones.
 
Yes, any mutant can fit because they're telling a mostly original story; it doesn't matter that Wonder Man is an actor, you can put any mutant who is having issues with controlling their powers in this role.

They shouldn't bring in old characters and make them mutants when there are so many unused ones.
It very much does matter that Wonder Man is an actor when 99% of the show is about acting, and that's the main thing his character is known for.

You're proving my point here, you can't even name me any characters that would make more sense to be in this role than him, if you can't do that then repeating "they made him a mutant" doesn't matter no matter how many times you do it.
 
The News Team's Christopher Glennon has a new review up on the front page of AnimeSuperhero.com:

"Review: Wonder Man: Superhero Meets Hollywood Satire"​


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"The Avengers call themselves Earth’s Mightiest Heroes because they’ve got the heaviest hitters around. One of their physically strongest, Wonder Man, debuted in 1964 as a villain so powerful he could take on the Avengers themselves. After a redemption arc, Wonder Man joined the Avengers and gained a bit of popularity. He was a member of various Avengers teams and had his own on-going series in the 1990’s. So how did the Marvel Cinematic Universe choose to finally introduce him? By making him a struggling actor who hides his powers and cares more about landing a role than saving the world.

The name “Wonder Man” in the MCU belongs to a cheesy 80’s sci-fi movie while the name “Simon Williams” belongs to the show’s protagonist. Young Simon Williams loved the Wonder Man movie and gets a chance to star in its modern day remake. Fortunately for him, former Mandarin stand-in Trevor Slattery takes him under his wing and coaches him on how to be a better actor. Unfortunately for him, Trevor didn’t enter his life by chance. Trevor was arrested by the Department of Damage Control for all the Mandarin stuff, and he worked out a deal with them to spy on Simon, who has been on their radar due to the super powers he’s been hiding."

Read the full review here.
 

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