"Son of Batman" Animated Feature Pre-Release Discussion (Spoilers)

[Yojimbo]

Gary Miereanu posted a first look at Nightwing.
https://twitter.com/SuperPRGuy/status/444640249788915712

 

[CyberCubed]

Nightwing looks like his Young Justice design

 

[Frontier]

Well it's certainly not his New 52 design .

 

[CyberCubed]

He also looks way too young and handsome there. He's like a pretty boy.

 

[TheVileOne]

That's clearly Young Justice Nightwing and this is a sequel to Young Justice .

 

[RoryWilliams]

He also looks way too young and handsome there. He's like a pretty boy.

Dick Grayson is a pretty boy. He has possibly the biggest female and LGBT fanbase in comics.

 

[Yojimbo]

Well it's certainly not his New 52 design .

Sometimes, heroes change codenames and/or costumes.

 

[Nightwing26]

Well, technically, going by Nightwing #1, and what Kyke Higgins has said, Nightwing wears the red after his tenure as Batman, which, I'm assuming, hasn't happened yet.

Dick Grayson is a pretty boy. He has possibly the biggest female and LGBT fanbase in comics.

This, lol.

 

[Frontier]

Sometimes, heroes change codenames and/or costumes.

True .

Though it could potentially be, as pointed out by previous posters, because Dick hasn't had his tenure as Batman yet, which after that is when he started wearing the red and black suit. Chronologically, the Damian story is before it.

But I could just as easily see this as the crew behind the movies just preferring Nightwing's other costume and not adhering completely to the designs in the New 52 .

 

[W.C.Reaf]

Nightwing looks like his Young Justice design

Not really, no. Other than them both being based on Nightwing the designs aren't that similar. This Nightwing looks like he's wearing spandex, YJ designs all had protective padding for the non-powered heroes. That's not even getting into the facial structure differences.

He also looks way too young and handsome there. He's like a pretty boy.

Well, yeah, he's Nightwing. "Young pretty boy" might as well be his character description.

 

[CyberCubed]

I've never head of Dick being portrayed as a pretty boy before. Likewise why does the LGBT community champion him? Pretty sure Dick has always been shown to be exclusively straight as he's always been romantically paired with either Batgirl or Starfire.

 

[RoryWilliams]

I've never head of Dick being portrayed as a pretty boy before.

Then you've never read a comic or watched a cartoon with him in it within the last 20 years. And gay dudes love him the same reason girls do. He's effin' hot.

 

[TFormersMarvel]

That's clearly Young Justice Nightwing and this is a sequel to Young Justice .

Wait a minute, let's not jump to conclusions.

They're similar, but definitely not the same Nightwing.

 

[Bobbywoodhogan]

Was just gonna say they aren't the same

 

[TFormersMarvel]

Additionally, more images of Son of Batman figures, including Nightwing (the rest are on this site): Toy Fair 2014: DC Collectibles

 

[CyberCubed]

Can someone explain how Dick Grayson aged from a kid to an adult while this Batman had 4 sidekicks? That would mean Batman would have had to be Batman for at least 15 years in this universe.

 

[Stu]

[QUOTE="CyberCubed]Can someone explain how Dick Grayson aged from a kid to an adult while this Batman had 4 sidekicks? That would mean Batman would have had to be Batman for at least 15 years in this universe.[/QUOTE]

It hasn't been explained in the 2 years that the new 52 reboot has been about, DC Comics have been very quiet about the answer to this question.

 

[Nightwing26]

Can someone explain how Dick Grayson aged from a kid to an adult while this Batman had 4 sidekicks? That would mean Batman would have had to be Batman for at least 15 years in this universe.

If you're referring to the New 52, it's been shown that of the 6 years Batman has been active, Dick (at 16 years old) became part of the team 1 year in, and after a couple months of training, officially became Robin as he first put on the suit to assist Batman against Lady Shiva (she beat both of them easily, although she decided to spare them because she saw the potential in Dick).

This is going by what Kyle Higgins has created as the New 52 origins of Nightwing, but since he never got to tell that story, it's still not the official origin. Still, I feel like it should be mentioned as it helps the whole '4 Robins in 5 years' thing: Dick eventually left Batman and dropped the Robin identity when he had a lead on Tony Zucco (who had returned to Gotham from hiding to try to speak to his daughter, Sonia). Bruce felt Dick could end up going over the edge, which as we know, Dick Grayson of all people would never do. He chose the identity of Nightwing (Higgins doesn't really mention any connections to Superman here...) to hunt down Zucco and being him to justice.

Of course, this doesn't pan out, and so Dick is now Nightwing and Bruce is Robin-less. At this point, I imagine, would be when Jason would've entered the mold, and after just starting his time as Robin, would've died. After some time, Tim showed up as Red Robin, and during his tenure as Batman's sidekick, Damian showed up, eventually became Robin, kicked Tim out, and would've teamed up with Dick (as Dick was Batman for a time in the New 52 as well; what happens to Bruce isn't really specified, although it was said he had died in this universe as well).

So essentially, it went like this:

-Richard Grayson (1st Robin: started as Robin at 16 years old and 1 year into the 6 year career of Batman, soon after left and became Nightwing, assumed the the mantle of Batman during the 5th year of the 6 years Batman has been active, and then returned to being Nightwing at 21 years old and 6 years into Batman's career)

-Jason Todd (2nd Robin: started out at a comparable age to Dick after Dick had left to become Nightwing, died soon after, and later returned alive as the Red Hood)

-Tim Drake (Red Robin: started out at an age around 15-16 years old some time into Batman's career and some time after Jason's death, left the team of the Dynamic Duo after Damian had shown up, and later formed the Teen Titans 6 years into Batman's career)

-Damian Wayne (4th Robin: started at an age close to 10 years old during Tim's tenure as Bruce's partner and just before his Bruce's death, soon became the Robin to Dick's Batman around the 5th year of the 6 years that Batman has been active, served as Robin to his father after he had returned during the 6th of the 6 years, and died during that same year)

Anyways, as for this movie, it hasn't been stated how many years Batman and Nightwing have been active and how old they were when they started out, so 15 years may be plausible, as is the assumption that Dick started out when he was 8-12 years old, which is common in almost every other story.

 

[Lord Sidious]

Additionally, more images of Son of Batman figures, including Nightwing (the rest are on this site): Toy Fair 2014: DC Collectibles

since there are no Batman and Cyborg in the JL War figures line in sight


and since War and Son of Batman are in same continuity

Then that awesome Batman figure should fit in with the rest of the JL War figures


now all is left is Cyborg.

 

[AQVXZ11]

I was just talking about this with someone. Even if I buy the the Robins didn't last long and their careers were rushed, Batman is only in his late twenties here right. That would make him only like 7 or 8 years older than Robin. Strange. But even more so is that He has to be even younger. Why? Cause War implied that they've only been at it for several months at the longest. If Bruce became Batman at 21 or something, that would make him only 22 or 23. Which throws everything off. No way he met, trained and crammed all the Robins in that time. and I say he's gotta be young cause he people still talk about him as a myth. There's no way he and Robin are that secretive. Literally YEARS and people still aren't sure if he's real or maybe a vampire or something? Come on now. And then also, there's no way they've been around for that long and still haven't met each other. There wouldn't be years-long gaps between alien invasions in the DC universe.

Perhaps this is set in the future or something. That would make sense. Nobody said it had to take place right after the events of War. Could just be years later in the time line. Otherwise, there's going to be a lot of time problems. I'm sure they know what they're doing but...