Nickelodeon Schedule Discussion, Part 2

[NickDisneyCartoo]

I'm all for Sanjay & Craig or TMNT, either one would be a good choice.

 

[rockorockorocko]

I think these comments should be moved to the KCAS thread. But I want SJC to get the slot before the KCAs, but I have a bad feeling it'll go to BW.

 

[rockorockorocko]

TMNT is one of Nick's most successful (and likely most expensive to produce) shows right now and they can't bother to give it more than one slot a week on the main channel? Ridiculous.

If they can't see fit to do it the honor of having a weekday strip the least they could do is encore the premieres somewhere.

They could encore it at 11:30 or 12:30 next to Power Rangers premieres on Saturday (both slots currently occupied by SpongeBob) or at least on Sunday morning next to Power Rangers before the hours of SpongeBob that lead into new Ninja Turtles.

They play Power Rangers twice a week but wont at least do that much for Ninja Turtles? They own Ninja Turtles, they are probably required to air Power Rangers twice a week by contract but that's no excuse not to give TMNT as good or better treatment.

They could easily give TMNT one of those weekday afternoon slots. Even the 3PM one would suffice for reruns. Heck, even 7AM weekday mornings would be better than nothing. I just don't get how a show that's done so well for them and has made so much money since they started airing it is not getting more than one time slot a week on the main network.

They aren't even making up for that much with how they air the show on Nicktoons in the 6AM hour and nowhere else. They don't even play the show in order on Nicktoons.

Agreed 100 percent. My fear is because TMNT is 1) serialized and 2) appeals to an older demo, that Nick will give it the LoK treatment and only air premieres. Especially considering the show already brings in $$$$ in so many other ways compared to others Nick shows (toys, clothes, lunchboxes, DVDs, etc.). If TMNT doesn't get weekday/weekend slots in March, I'll have to concede that Nick will basically stick to the premiere - and that's horrible. TMNT/LoK reruns SHOULD be somewhere on the schedule and you gave the most logical spots.

 

[rockorockorocko]

This is kind of off the "Is Nick Overhated Thread", but it seems like Nick continues to get so much flack for it's line up. I get there's still a lot of SBSP, but am I the only one who is happy with the progress Nick has made with it's weekday and weekend schedule?

I mean a year ago, it was basically 11 airings of SBSP, 3 FOP at 1 DaJ. And the weekends weren't much better, with some stuff sprinkled in, but basically a whole lot of SBSP.

But now, although there's still 10 airings of SBSP, there's 1 FOP, 1 RI, 1 SJC, 1 SaC and rotating slot at 7:30 p.m. I mean that's something right? And the weekend schedule is always super diversified IMO and I'm happy with that.

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My only gripe is TMNT should get a weekday slot (which would bring SBSP down to 9 airings) and some weekend reruns. And maybe THH/TTM rotating at 7:30 p.m. instead of ATV (barf). But other than that, I'm fine with the lineup. I just find it crazy people feel like Nick is still where it was. But perhaps that's the stigma it's put upon itself.

 

[NickDisneyCartoo]

This is kind of off the "Is Nick Overhated Thread", but it seems like Nick continues to get so much flack for it's line up. I get there's still a lot of SBSP, but am I the only one who is happy with the progress Nick has made with it's weekday and weekend schedule?

I mean a year ago, it was basically 11 airings of SBSP, 3 FOP at 1 DaJ. And the weekends weren't much better, with some stuff sprinkled in, but basically a whole lot of SBSP.

But now, although there's still 10 airings of SBSP, there's 1 FOP, 1 RI, 1 SJC, 1 SaC and rotating slot at 7:30 p.m. I mean that's something right? And the weekend schedule is always super diversified IMO and I'm happy with that.

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My only gripe is TMNT should get a weekday slot (which would bring SBSP down to 9 airings) and some weekend reruns. And maybe THH/TTM rotating at 7:30 p.m. instead of ATV (barf). But other than that, I'm fine with the lineup. I just find it crazy people feel like Nick is still where it was. But perhaps that's the stigma it's put upon itself.

Nickelodeon is clearly improving very nicely. The best part is they earned it well. Great advertising, diverse/consistant scheduling, giving shows a chance to establish themselves, and theme events for their shows. There are still a lot of problems to fix (getting TMNT a weekday slot, dropping ATV and putting HH/TTM back at 7:30pm), but I think Nickelodeon is on the right track to rebuilding themselves again.

 

[Dynamite Soldier]

I agree with you, Nick's lineup has gotten a bit better than last year, but it isn't perfect yet. Here's some suggestions on how I would run the weekday lineup for Nick.

-Give TMNT a weekday strip (again) and MAYBE place it at a good timeslot. It would be a good idea if FOP, RI and SJC gets pushed to 3-4:30pm and TMNT gets the 4:30pm slot. That would be the best slot for it, hands down. Makes no sense that considering TMNT is one of Nick's biggest cash cows now and does well with the audience.
-Nick extends up to 9pm Mon-Wed and up to 10pm Fridays (again). CN will be losing its 8pm prime hour effective March 31st and it could just be Nick and Disney competing with each other during that hour. Plus, does NaN really need that much time, which a bunch of ended sitcom reruns? Nick's ratings are clearly better than NaN and since a lot of kids are up at 8pm, it would make since for Nick to make an expansion (kinda like what Jetix did to Toon Disney).
-The Thundermans and The Haunted Hathaways share the 7:30pm weeknight slot, as you mentioned.
-Winx Club gets at least one slot, since the fachinse is very popular with girls in the US. Plus, it'll add some variety.
-Nick takes back the 6am hour for a rotating block of cancelled/former Nicktoons (Angry Beavers, Doug, Rocko's Modern Life, Rugrats and even newer ones like Penguins of Madagascar, Monsters vs. Aliens, Back at the Barnyard, etc.) to make Nick fans grin.
-Nick creates an action block for shows like TMNT and LoK for the hardcore fans out there (similar to SLAM!)

That would make Nick have an awesome schedule, but the current one is OK for now.

 

[NickDisneyCartoo]

Give TMNT a weekday strip (again) and MAYBE place it at a good timeslot. It would be a good idea if FOP, RI and SJC gets pushed to 3-4:30pm and TMNT gets the 4:30pm slot. That would be the best slot for it, hands down. Makes no sense that considering TMNT is one of Nick's biggest cash cows now and does well with the audience.
-Nick extends up to 9pm Mon-Wed and up to 10pm Fridays (again). CN will be losing its 8pm prime hour effective March 31st and it could just be Nick and Disney competing with each other during that hour. Plus, does NaN really need that much time, which a bunch of ended sitcom reruns? Nick's ratings are clearly better than NaN and since a lot of kids are up at 8pm, it would make since for Nick to make an expansion (kinda like what Jetix did to Toon Disney).
-The Thundermans and The Haunted Hathaways share the 7:30pm weeknight slot, as you mentioned.
-Winx Club gets at least one slot, since the frachinse is very popular with girls in the US. Plus, it'll add some variety.
-Nick takes back the 6am hour for a rotating block of cancelled/former Nicktoons (Angry Beavers, Doug, Rocko's Modern Life, Rugrats and even newer ones like Penguins of Madagascar, Monsters vs. Aliens, Back at the Barnyard, etc.) to make Nick fans grin.
-Nick creates an action block for shows like TMNT and LoK for the hardcore fans out there (similar to SLAM!)

These are all great ideas and suggestions, especially Nick extending to 9pm Mon-Wed and up to 10pm Fridays.

 

[MegaJ]

No one's talked about this but Nick Jr is adding a lot of Peppa Pig to the schedule. The articles notes that Disney Juinor is doing a lot better than Nick Jr. I'm pretty sure NickMom hurts more than it helps; it turned a lot of parents off and they should've have done it especially with a competitor on the way. If you're wondering, much of the NickMom content isn't as edgy anymore and it's mainly inoffensive sitcoms...

 

[rockorockorocko]

I agree with you, Nick's lineup has gotten a bit better than last year, but it isn't perfect yet. Here's some suggestions on how I would run the weekday lineup for Nick.

-Give TMNT a weekday strip (again) and MAYBE place it at a good timeslot. It would be a good idea if FOP, RI and SJC gets pushed to 3-4:30pm and TMNT gets the 4:30pm slot. That would be the best slot for it, hands down. Makes no sense that considering TMNT is one of Nick's biggest cash cows now and does well with the audience.
-Nick extends up to 9pm Mon-Wed and up to 10pm Fridays (again). CN will be losing its 8pm prime hour effective March 31st and it could just be Nick and Disney competing with each other during that hour. Plus, does NaN really need that much time, which a bunch of ended sitcom reruns? Nick's ratings are clearly better than NaN and since a lot of kids are up at 8pm, it would make since for Nick to make an expansion (kinda like what Jetix did to Toon Disney).
-The Thundermans and The Haunted Hathaways share the 7:30pm weeknight slot, as you mentioned.
-Winx Club gets at least one slot, since the fachinse is very popular with girls in the US. Plus, it'll add some variety.
-Nick takes back the 6am hour for a rotating block of cancelled/former Nicktoons (Angry Beavers, Doug, Rocko's Modern Life, Rugrats and even newer ones like Penguins of Madagascar, Monsters vs. Aliens, Back at the Barnyard, etc.) to make Nick fans grin.
-Nick creates an action block for shows like TMNT and LoK for the hardcore fans out there (similar to SLAM!)

That would make Nick have an awesome schedule, but the current one is OK for now.

All great moves. I also wanna add that their movie acquisitions have been on point and I am happy that Nick is cultivating their library. Every kids network SHOULD invest in airing theatrical movies.

I totally agree Nick should nab the 6 a.m. and 8 p.m. hours. But for me, I don't think it matter airing anything old. Even shows like PoM/RaM/TP/FBaCC that still get those 7 a.m. slots on weekends is a waste IMO. Those early hours are opportune times for more TMNT/SJC/RI/BW slots. I also wouldn't give WC anything... seems like Nick is treating it like monthly 1-hour specials. Power Rangers however, could get another slot or two.

Nick really wants to keep it's daily average high, but I can't see any network catching up with what Nick has right now. Look at the daily averages, Nick is WAY ahead of whatever that second network is. four more slots a day won't hurt.

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Regarding what MegaJ brought up, maybe now that the main network is doing well. Nick will shift gears to their digital ones. Nick Jr. is the right place to start since it's the next most important. Peppa Pig does great for that network, I think it'll definitely make it more competitve.

As for NaN, IMO, remove everything except Full House, Friends and George Lopez. The other shows they have don't bring it much. Until the next big acquisition, those three shows will keep the average higher than including shows like Hanging with Mr. Cooper, The Nanny and The New Adventures of New of Old Christine.

 

[Sketch]

Thankfully Ninja Turtles actually gets some of its best ratings from kids 2-11 and as long as that remains to be the case it wont matter that plenty of 18+ watch it as well.

 

[J21697]

Glad they are now focusing on Nick Jr. That channel really needs a make over. They need to start finding some original programming (IP's) for the channel, and remove NickMom. It's really a waste...

Same goes for TeenNick. They need to invest in more teen dramas like ABC Family. They obviously wont get the same ratings as ABC Family's, but it'll at least draw some attention towards the channel.

 

[NickDisneyCartoo]

Dora in Wonderland primetime special will premiere on Monday March 10th at 7:00pm
Nickelodeon Debuts New Primetime Special, ‘Dora in Wonderland’ With Sara Ramirez, Jewel, Mel Brooks & Alan Cumming - Ratings | TVbytheNumbers

 

[kanc]

On nick.com site, starting tomorrow 1:30PM Wallykazam are showing instead of Peppa Pig, since Wallykazam usually shows 1:30PM slot and 1PM together. 4PM will be Breadwinners instead of Rabbids Invasion. The encore of Mall Cop movie shifts from 6PM to 8PM. Which means before 8pm will be SpongeBob airings.. (too bad Sam & Cat aren't having Friday 7pm slot and/or Thursday slot if no movie is in schedule before 8pm). It's unknown if Saturday's/Sundays or rest of the month have any changes since tvlistings zap2it, toonzone, tvguide didn't update the schedule change. I just noticed changes that took place on nick.com tvschedules site. Since it's almost end of February, there should at least be updates on toonzone, zap2it as well.
This is first time in awhile on Friday movie starts 8pm. The last time there had been movie aired on Friday at 8PM (Scooby Doo) slot was back in March 29 of last year after new series of Lalaloopsy. Maybe Friday 8PM for any encore movie would be good time instead of 6pm.

 

[rockorockorocko]

Based on the full March premieres and current schedule on Zap2It, PP replaces one episode of TUZ, Wallkazam and PR rotate at 1:30 p.m., RI moves to 2 p.m. after Nick Jr., FOP gets the 3 p.m. hour and SaC fills in at 7:30 p.m. I like RI at that spot. Works well IMO as a bridge from Nick Jr. To Nick and FOP back to a full hour helps maintain the ratings and is a better lead for SJC.

FOP gets a marathon this Sunday and at least for this week, PP airs during the 7 a.m. hour weekends. That's a great move.

Also, next week Nick is airing Cheaper by the Doze .

IM/SDR will premiere on Thursdays at 8 p.m. beginning April 3.

 

[J21697]

Paul Blart: Mall Cop scored 2.8 million viewers

Thursday Cable Ratings: ‘Vikings’ & ‘Pawn Stars’ Lead Night + NBA Basketball, ‘Ridiculousness’ & More - Ratings | TVbytheNumbers

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[NickDisneyCartoo]

Oops! My mistake. Post deleted.

 

[J21697]

Why is Nickelodeon STILL airing ATV reruns on Saturday night? They must be under contract with Brian Robbins stating that reruns have to be aired or something. On March 15, they are airing two new episodes of The Thundermans (which I think is a great idea) but after those two airings is a repeat of ATV. Wouldn't it be more smart to place a HH repeat there, since that show is going to have literally no repeats that week?

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Anyway, Disney is countering TMNT's special with a Spy Kids movie, I don't think those do that well for Disney, so no worries.

 

[rockorockorocko]

Why is Nickelodeon STILL airing ATV reruns on Saturday night? They must be under contract with Brian Robbins stating that reruns have to be aired or something. On March 15, they are airing two new episodes of The Thundermans (which I think is a great idea) but after those two airings is a repeat of ATV. Wouldn't it be more smart to place a HH repeat there, since that show is going to have literally no repeats that week?

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Anyway, Disney is countering TMNT's special with a Spy Kids movie, I don't think those do that well for Disney, so no worries.

Right? It probably does have something to do with contracts... not like Nick has any plans for ATV. Aside from getting THH/TTM to the same episode count, I bet Nick is airing TTM after SaC to see if fairs better than THH.

Oh and I wouldn't be too worried about Spy Kids. Disney has overplayed their set of movies SO much since constantly countering Nick Saturday night and their movie binge last December, that even some of their top tier movies are posting some pretty average ratings - on top of their network being down. If Nick promotes the TMNT special, it'll be fine.

 

[kanc]

Schedule changes UPDATE: Come as of this week
Starting tomorrow and Wednesday 7PM will now be The Thundermans repeat. Thursday movie 7PM was supposed to be Cheaper by the Dozen 2 (as scheduled despite thank goodness no promo for it) but instead it is replaced with Percy Jackson movie, and same thing with Friday also. Sunday March 9 daylight saving time begins. Looks like there will be George Lopez replacing first Christine airing. 5AM and 5:30AM will be Full House. This Sunday midnight will be no more off-the-clock. And that's it; only schedule change has updated on zap2it and nick.com, apparently for this week

Cheaper by the Dozen 2 movie will air next Thursday 13th. Also on Sunday the 16th SpongeBob marathon will include St. Patrick's Day as Best of Patrick Star block (just like last year)

 

[kanc]

Sorry I don't want to spend that much time doing every single schedule changes..But as of today more schedule change update: first of all starting tomorrow afternoon 3:30PM Breadwinners replacing Fairly OddParents, 7PM again Percy Jackson movie has been pulled (I saw the promo yesterday stating that airing Thurs 7PM). it will air Jinxed movie (just saw that Ciara Bravo will get her own pilot), 8:30PM will be The Thundermans, 9PM and 9:30PM back to Full House as previously scheduled. Friday 8PM also Percy Jackson is pulled and replaced with hour of Breadwinners. Full House returns 9pm hour. The thing is Percy Jackson movie we thought Nick will give it a chance for audience to grow since it didn't do well last Sat. but i guess not. Cooper episodes are airing in random. Sat 5:30PM instead of Sanjay and Craig is now SpongeBob. Sunday 3AM glitch mistake for George Lopez: now is Christine. Tuesday 11th 3:30PM will be Breadwinners instead of Fairly OddParents. Also Tuesday 11th and next Wed 12th, Sam and Cat will be pushed back to 7PM and Haunted Hathaways return to 7:30PM slot. Thursday 13th 4:30PM will be Breadwinners instead of Sanjay and Craig. Friday 14th 4:30PM used to be Breadwinners but changed to Sanjay and Craig. And also Thurs Mar 20 7PM will have Cheaper by the Dozen. Seemed weird that they start with Cheaper by the Dozen 2, then Cheaper by the Dozen.