Why And When did cartoon network fail/fall?

[Surreal Kangaroo]

Late 2005 when they started playing live-action movies.

 

[Silver]

Without a doubt, 2007, or whenever the Fall theme started and they aired shows like "Out of Jimmy's Head" and "Fried Dynamite"

 

[TDIFan247]

Without a doubt, 2007, or whenever the Fall theme started and they aired shows like "Out of Jimmy's Head" and "Fried Dynamite"

I've got to come out of the closet (no pun intended, though I kinda should ) and say this.
The song was awesome to me.
The actual promo was NOT.

Pershonally, I think that CN hasn't failed yet. Juuuuuuuuuuuuuust yet.
Chowder's cancellation, the TDE's, and CNReal (other than Survive This) have all pissed me off to a level, but they've been slowly improving.

Too bad they can't 'renew' Dexter's Laboratory.

 

[PC!]

None of you guys remember the day Cartoon Cartoon Fridays became "Fridays"? The day Friday nights went from Cartoon Cartoons hanging out and hosting a block of great shows to a bunch of live action folks dancing around like morons?

That, for me, was the day Cartoon Network began it's downfall.

 

[Silver]

None of you guys remember the day Cartoon Cartoon Fridays became "Fridays"? The day Friday nights went from Cartoon Cartoons hanging out and hosting a block of great shows to a bunch of live action folks dancing around like morons?

That, for me, was the day Cartoon Network began it's downfall.

Come now, Tommy and Tara weren't THAT bad. I loved the new Fridays, Toonami, Miguzi (Code Lyoko was is one of my favorites) and even the new city theme. I hope they someday to something like the old Fridays when the toons host, though.

 

[zimbach]

Come now, Tommy and Tara weren't THAT bad. I loved the new Fridays, Toonami, Miguzi (Code Lyoko was is one of my favorites) and even the new city theme. I hope they someday to something like the old Fridays when the toons host, though.

I liked Nzinga better than Tara. Too bad she blew out her voice in her first season and got fired. There's still an unflattering photo of her on Toonzone's Friday's page. She usually looked way better than that.

 

[Surreal Kangaroo]

I liked Nzinga better than Tara. Too bad she blew out her voice in her first season and got fired.

She got fired? I thought she quit.

 

[Milligan]

I definitely think CN started failing when the whole ATHF lighting incident in Boston took place IMHO.

Otherwise, the introduction of "Out of Jimmy's Head", and the fact that most new Cartoon Cartoons weren't up to quality with earlier generations in terms of charcter development and humor quality... All inevitable signs of deterioration.

I didn't mind seeing shows like Cow and Chicken and Dexter's Lab, for example, fade away ( I was never too fond of them and I don't like to live in the past with anything at all).
And Toonami and Miguzi eventually going the the path of Snick- hurt me a bit, but as long as there were good shows on the channel, i kept tuning in (rely on anime never makes anything better, BTW).

However, I think we can all agree that CN has shown itself truly dying when the current administration embraced live-action in a pointless, uncreative menas to compete with Nick and Diseny, rather than be the best #3 it can be and stick to promoting new and original cartoons/acquisitions...

That's my best view of this... Descent...

I don't view the entire network as a failure or as 'fallen', instead I view some of their projects and decisions as bad and not in the best interest of the network. There is still plenty to love about Cartoon Network and the stuff that you don't love is easy to avoid, just click the channel button on your remote control.

CN is still the main choice of many of the people who post on this site from the looks of it, so even if it isn't #1 in the ratings or the most popular world wide, it still has appeal and still does pretty well for itself.

I agree. The only prbolem is telling these nostalgia buffs and ranters who constanly complain about this channel/ Nick/Disney on YouTube that...
In the end, we accept the good, and diss the bad, hoping it goes away...

 

[podznvines]

I agree. The only prbolem is telling these nostalgia buffs and ranters who constanly complain about this channel/ Nick/Disney on YouTube that...
In the end, we accept the good, and diss the bad, hoping it goes away...

True, and I agree with the comments that CN hasn't been a real failure though it started to get weak when they started airing Out of Jimmy's Head and brought "reality" shows, though the Total Drama Series and some of Adult Swim are why I turn to the channel now and then. However, people are going to complain (rightfully IMO) when a channel that's supposed to air cartoons is airing live action.

 

[Collie]

It hasn't, as far as I'm concerned. I watch it as much as I ever did.

 

[PC!]

Come now, Tommy and Tara weren't THAT bad.

I despised them. They acted almost as immature as the kids on Fried Dynamite, and that's pretty dang bad.

 

[Jeff Harris]

Cartoon Network is a recognizable brand name now, and their ratings overall are steadily improving.

Actually, the ratings aren't steadily improving. According to the LA Times (and reprinted nearly everywhere), Cartoon Network had their worst ratings ever in July 2009, which was its worst month demographic wise since May 2000 and the worst total viewership since June 1998. The recently completed third quarter, which includes July 2009, was down 15% from a year ago. Nine years ago in the same period, Cartoon Network tied with USA as the number one network in prime-time, the first time Cartoon Network had ever done that in its history. So, while they have small increases and improving from a month ago, I'd hardly call Cartoon Network's ratings "steadily improving."

 

[Rho]

..I liked Tommy & Tara.
That's excusable live action to me.

Plus, Whiskers was epic.

 

[zimbach]

She got fired? I thought she quit.

I was never clear on the exact circumstances, but the fact of Nzinga's prolonged laryngitis had to have contributed, one way or the other.

 

[Light Lucario]

I despised them. They acted almost as immature as the kids on Fried Dynamite, and that's pretty dang bad.

I think when they were first introduced, they didn't act too immature. I think it was after they had a month of airing Pokemon movies that they started being more immature or that I noticed it. I didn't hate it, but I did find it fairly annoying.

As for the topic at hand, I personally don't think that Cartoon Network has failed yet. I can understand where people are coming from with the rise of live action on the block. While that can be seen as a problem, it isn't taking over the network and as we've seen from CNReal, it doesn't generally work too well either. For me to consider the channel as a failure would personally mean that I have no reason left to watch it, which is certainly not true as I have mentioned in other threads.

 

[Kaelyx]

Can I be facetious and say CN's fall came the moment they cast me for something?

But in all seriousness, I don't think the network is failing or falling. I think it might be flailing as it struggles to find its new identity, and that's exactly what is coming. But I don't think these decisions are made all willy-nilly either. They'll try things out, and what bombs bombs, what thrives thrives.

We all long for the 'golden age.' There will always be someone to argue that things were better when they were younger.

 

[.bg]

Actually, the ratings aren't steadily improving. According to the LA Times (and reprinted nearly everywhere), Cartoon Network had their worst ratings ever in July 2009, which was its worst month demographic wise since May 2000 and the worst total viewership since June 1998.

All right, that's one month of low ratings, not exactly armageddon. Still, though, they haven't bombed completely yet, even without Toonami and their older series. Obviously, there's aspects of the network that keep people coming back, otherwise, CN would be dead and gone by now.

 

[Milligan]

True, and I agree with the comments that CN hasn't been a real failure though it started to get weak when they started airing Out of Jimmy's Head and brought "reality" shows, though the Total Drama Series and some of Adult Swim are why I turn to the channel now and then. However, people are going to complain (rightfully IMO) when a channel that's supposed to air cartoons is airing live action.

And that's their real stumbling block... They're afraid to admit it and let it die peacefully. That's why CN is losing viewers unlike yourself/myself and others who shield themselves. And ranting doesn't help...

Let's hope the comi ng cartoons late this year and in 2010 are a remionder of how to be the best #3 they can be...

 

[Lizor]

I think the very first sign was with the Fridays with Tommy, Nzinga and Tara, but it wasn't that bad, and had its moments. But what really showed some signs was when Out of Jimmy's Head aired.

 

[Milligan]

Can I be facetious and say CN's fall came the moment they cast me for something?

But in all seriousness, I don't think the network is failing or falling. I think it might be flailing as it struggles to find its new identity, and that's exactly what is coming. But I don't think these decisions are made all willy-nilly either. They'll try things out, and what bombs bombs, what thrives thrives.

We all long for the 'golden age.' There will always be someone to argue that things were better when they were younger.

Another statement I can agree with... I'll stumble myself here.